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Q: What are your initial impressions of the iPhone 5?

  • 10%
    It looks great, everything I expected and more.

  • 28%
    The iPhone 5 looks like it will be good but I was hoping for more from Apple.

  • 19%
    It seems to be too similar to the iPhone 4S.

  • 18%
    It doesn't look as though it will be as good as some other smartphones.

  • 22%
    I don't care.

  • 3%
    I don't know.


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PC Advisor

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Now that the iPhone 5 has launched, we what to know what you think about it.

Let us know in our poll.

Poll: What are your initial impressions of the iPhone 5?

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acfc

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I have a Blackberry and iPad 2 and was looking forward to moving to an iPhone 5.

However I use Google maps a great deal and so have read a lot about the issues with Apple Maps and won't even move to IOS6 on my iPad untill a google map app is out, never mind buy an new phone

I am on O2 and cannot move so no 4g on the iPhone?

I need new adapter at a ridiculous price and the iphone really is too expensive on my opinion? Yes I did know it would be but over the past 24 hours it has hit home!

I am now rethinking my next phone and might go the Samsung route but I need to spend some time looking at the options again as I had my mind set on the iPhone? (also if I do move to an Andriod my wife will probably buy a Nexus 7 rather than wait for the mini iPad).

So back to my Blackberry and more hours of reading all the conflicting advice on what my next mobile should be!

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Forum Editor

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Mr Mistoffelees

Steve Jobs was responsible for his fair share of blunders.

The Apple Pippin, that couldn't decide whether it was a game console or a PC

The Apple Newton - the world's first PDA - came to market underdeveloped and at too high a price point.

The PowerMac G4 Cube - a triumph of style over substance.

Apple TV - the less said about that the better.

All of those pale into insignificance when compared with Steve's biggest blunder, which was to sell all but one of his Apple shares when he left the company in the 1980s. At the beginning of this year posession of those same shares would have valued Steve's personal holding at $45 billion.

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Mr Mistoffelees

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"Steve Jobs would have been very embarrassed."

I suspect he would have ensured it was properly ready before release.

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Forum Editor

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The Apple maps fiasco is something that should have the developers hanging their heads in shame, and for an Apple apologist to go public with 'the more people use it, the better it will get' is about the most pathetic rationale I've heard yet.

Google maps on my iPad is superb, and has navigated me through numerous journeys, both here and on the continent without putting a foot wrong. Why on earth Apple decided to abandon all that for an underdeveloped, in-house adaptation of something it got from TomTom is beyond me.

Serious egg on the corporate face, and yes, Steve Jobs would have been very embarrassed.

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Flak999

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I think Apple have made a huge mistake ditching Google maps! Their new map app is shockingly bad, Steve Jobs must be spinning in his grave.

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Woolwell

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I've been reading the reviews on Apple Maps. They are bad. I was considering an iPhone - not now.

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Woolwell

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It seems that the venue scans the Passbook and you may need other apps to work with it. This makes it even more puzzling why it isn't on the iPad.

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Flak999

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there is a bit of an explanation for the lack of NFC here Why no NFC on iphone 5

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Flak999

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There is no NFC chip in the iphone 5 either! Apple must be intending to implement the passbook feature in a different way?

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Woolwell

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Found that the only way I can get Street View is through another app Live Street View.

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Woolwell

I agree that the absence of Passbook for the IPad is regrettable, but I'm guessing the reason is the absence Of an NFC (Near Field Communication) chip. Without that technology PassBook isn't going to work.

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Flak999

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Yes, I must agree. The maps are truly dire compared to the Google map app we used to have. I'm very surprised that Apple have let this slip through like this!

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Woolwell

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I see I'm not alone in complaining about Apple Maps BBC

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Woolwell

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I've now had time to "play" with Apple Maps. Uk satellite coverage is poor. The outskirts of Birmingham has virtually non-existent satellite coverage but the centre of the city has flyover.

Based on what I have seen of iOS6 then I am less inclined to get the iPhone.

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Woolwell

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No street view in Apple Maps - what a failure and flyover is very limited.

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Woolwell

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I have upgraded my iPad2 to iOs6 and am distinctly underwhelmed. Passbook is not available for the iPad (surely this is a big mistake). Siri is not available. Other features like Find Friend and Find iPhone have to be downloaded as apps. The Maps imagery appears to be more up to date than Google Maps. I don't need the VIP bit in email. Safari hasn't been greatly improved.

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Woolwell

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The snag that I have found with the BA App and wonder if it will be the same with Passbook is that it only show one boarding pass and not other members of the family. If they don't have a phone which can run the app then you are back to paper.

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Wool well

I've used the BA app since it first became available. It's good, but Passbook promises to be very good. As Flak999 says, it will require airlines to sign up to the idea, but they will - competition will see to that.

Passbook relies on the operating system knowing your location, but once that's sorted it will automatically show a boarding card as you enter the airport. It will also update to advise you of your boarding gate number, if that changes for any reason.

In time, Passbook promises to be one of the most useful apps around, especially when shops and theatres are on board. No doubt other platforms will soon have something similar.

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Flak999

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Forum Editor Woolwell

Upgrade to ios 6 went faultlessly, have been playing with the new features all evening. Passbook is there but not functional as yet, it relies on the various companies writing apps that make use of the feature, but it promises to be very good.

Not sure I prefer the new mapping compared to the Google offering but I dare say I will get used to it, the new panorama feature for photographs is very good and I'm glad they have moved the Bluetooth function to the top of the settings menu!

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Woolwell

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The BA App already allows you to have a BA boarding pass on iPad or Android phone. Not all airports though accept it and you have to check.

Does Passbook automatically open?

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Flak999

I've never been that interested in an iPhone, but suddenly I want one, if just for the Passbook feature alone. The thought of having my boarding card appear on the screen as I walk into an airport, or my theatre tickets as I enter the lobby is very exciting.... Assuming it works.

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Flak999

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Downloading ios 6 to my iphone 4s now. I will be interested to see the new features!

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wee eddie

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It's a beautiful looking piece of kit and if I wasn't such a miserable so&so I'd buy one tomorrow ~ And a protective case!

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Forum Editor

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"I think apple are in danger of loosing touch with its customer base and giving the public what apple thinks they should have, not the other way round."

The company was accused of losing touch with its customer base when it launched the iMac all those years ago, but two years after launch it had become the biggest selling computer of all time.

Coming more up to date, in the last six months of 2011 Apple turned over more than $29 billion, on which it made a profit of just under $7.5 billion.

Both were record figures for Apple. Over 38 million iPhone sales contributed to that figure, as did almost 14 million iPad sales.

Losing touch with your customer base has never been more lucrative.

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WhiteTruckMan

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Personally I thing the change to the docking system is going to tick off quite a few existing apple users. Will it be a deal breaker? For some, almost certainly. Will it be enough to impact on apples thinking? probably not. I think apple are in danger of loosing touch with its customer base and giving the public what apple thinks they should have, not the other way round.

I might add that I own no apple products at all, so I have no axe to grind on this.

WTM

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Woolwell

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I'm a little bit underwhelmed by the new phone. I am due to change my phone at the end of the year but this hasn't made me say I will have an iPhone. I don't think I will see a real reason for it until 4G is available in my area and that may take some time. Everything Everywhere (EE) are rolling it out in just 16 cities initially and that doesn't include a city near me.

There appear to be some errors in the PCA reports and about EE and Orange and T Mobile. See Orange. The PCA report "iPhone 5 won't support O2 or Vodafone 4G networks" states "Orange and T-Mobile customers won't have the option for 4G either. However, since they are owned by EE it will be easy to move over to the new operator." The Orange site makes it clear that Orange and TMobile customers are being moved over to the EE network and so therefore will have the 4G option.

The review possible needs proof-reading and spell checking. "At first blush both new materials" was just one I spotted. I think that it means glance but blush may be appropriate!

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Condom

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Matt Egan

Thank you for your response. I do understand what your problems might very well be and what you are trying to do. I also understand the problems many printed publications are having these days and the need for you to expand into a bigger on line presence. My working days are well behind me now so the views I give on this site are from a users point of view, the very users you need to survive these days. As a regular tester of Symantec products on this site, which is always a pleasure to carry out, we do comment on what they have to offer and whether they listen to these comments or not I have little idea, but at least they do ask. Do you ever think of asking the users of this site what they think of changes you propose before you make them? I also hear what you say about it being free but as I have already sad to the FE you are not in the "being free business" so you are not really being altruistic as your advertisers pay for it in the end and I'm not entering the long debate about adverts on the site.

I fully expected there to be problems during the iPhone launch, and there was, but I was able to watch it on several other sites without problems, so perhaps it was more than just a DDoS affect as you had almost the exact same problems with the launch of the SIII.

This morning it took me over 2 hours to be able to log in as I was getting the "There has been a problem with your request" message constantly and it is still taking over a minute to change pages, if it does change at all. As you say, I have been with you for some time, but not half as long as some, so I have seen many changes not only here but in the written work before I stopped getting it, and I seldom complain strongly about what you are doing. However from a user point of view these lapses are not doing your credibility as a "Computer Expert Site" a lot of good and I'm pretty sure you cannot be happy about them yourself. I was not out to cause offence by questioning the competency of your site developers as surely that is exactly what you should be looking at when problems such as this happen regularly as who else is there to look at?

Anyway I have made my point and you have to your credit allowed me to do so, so I will not say more on the subject.

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Condom

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FE

Thank you for your response. I am fully aware that I am not in charge and I never said I was. You are correct that I have no experience in keeping your Magazines Free resource going 24/7 but I do have experience in setting up even bigger systems which ran 24/7, one of which carried life saving information so I do have some experience in what sorts of problems can occur and the time it can take to resolve even the silliest little thing. My experience goes back to the 1970's when we had to build air conditioned buildings to install our Leo 326 machines and all the paraphernalia which went along with them but despite there being a whole generation apart I'm pretty sure the problems when things went wrong are not too dissimilar and in fact are probably a little easier to resolve these days.

My comments were not thoughtless as I did think about them before I wrote them and I make no apology for making them as this is not the first time this year that the site has had troubles and indeed is still having this morning as it it still taking over 1 minute to change pages and also took me 2 hours to log in with constant "There is a problem With your request" messages. When these sorts of things are happening a lot then who do you look at other than "your development team" as surely they are the responsible ones?

This may very well be a free service to users but it is not a free service as your company is not in that business, so if it wasn't making money for the company it would not be here.

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Forum Editor

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"so in a sense she never left home."

When my youngest daughter made her first Hong Kong/Thailand trip she used to phone home every couple of days or so, and regale her mother with (sanitised)accounts of her trip. They talked for hours, and it wasn't until the day before she came home that it dawned on me that I was paying her mobile phone bill.

None of my children have a land line - they conduct their social and business lives on separate mobiles. The girls are iPhone addicts - my son couldn't care less, as long as his phone can make calls and handle email he's happy.

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Matt Egan

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I was the first person at my university to get a mobile phone. As a consequence, I rarely used it, and because it was so heavy it lived in my room. My sister went to the same university five years later, and had a totally different experience - everyone had a phone, so in a sense she never left home.

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Matt Egan

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Condom we've been getting twice the traffic we normally get, concentrated into a very small space of time. It's like being hit by a DDoS attack. I have aplogised before, and will gladly do so again, but there isn't a great deal we can do about it. We are, after all, in the business of attracting traffic!

As for 'constantly tinkering and never getting it right...' - here's a shot of the site from 2003 (coincidentally, when I started at PC Advisor): https://twitter.com/MattJEgan/status/246559531881078784/photo/1/large

The fact is technology evolves, as does the expectation of readers.

We are no longer primarily a print publication. We publish across multiple media to more than two-and-a-half million readers every month (and that's without iPhone launches). Honestly, if we didn't 'tinker' we wouldn't be in business, and you would have nowhere to post. We don't always get it right, and we do value the feedback of our users, all our users. We'd be foolish not to.

For instance: we're going to limit the social sharing bar in the forums in direct response to this thread. But - for context - the forum represents around 10 percent of all traffic to the PC Advisor website, so we simply can't base all of our design and UI decisions on the wishes of some forum members. We take all views on board, and try to make the best decision for everyone. Sometimes we get it wrong.

I hope this helps, but I have to say that I don't appreciate you commenting on the competancy of our hard-working development team (who are, for the record, on call whenever the forum is open - which is 24 hours a day, 365 days a year.) The PC Advisor forum is free for everyone that uses it, and all are welcome. Especially those such as you who have been long-term supporters. It belongs to you. But we provide this service free of charge, and while you are more than entitled to comment, you don't get to make cheap digs at the expense of people who are just - with respect - doing their jobs to the best of their considerable ability.

Matt

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Condom

"I know if I was in charge I wouldn't be at all happy at what it is doing to the reputation of what is after all a PC magazine where people would I suspect expect better. Perhaps it is a time to be looking at who is doing the work and their competency."

You're not in charge however, and I doubt that you have much idea about what's involved in keeping a free resource like this going, 365 days of the year. Your thoughtless comments about the competency of our development team are offensive, and totally uncalled for.

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Footloose1949

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Somewhat underwhelmed ... it's a new 'toy', most of the functions it (and other 'phones') have I don't use. Give me a a full-screen keyboard suitable for my thick fingers, and I might use it more. My main demand is for reliable network coverage everywhere in the UK, which isn't something a handset can make work better, so it's a just 'Mutton done up as Lamb'.

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Mr Mistoffelees

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I went with the don't care option, as I'm one of those strange people who just use a phone to make and receive phone calls.

As for 4G coverage, by the time it arrives in rural West Somerset, Apple will be releasing the all-singing, all-dancing iPhone 23!

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Quickbeam

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Quite a few of you mention the lessening thickness and increasing size in area of new phones.

I got an HTC last year and within a month bought a new normal pocket sized Nokia as I immediately found I didn't want a phone with a big screen that was bulky to carry around in trouser pockets. The Nokia lives in my pocket, the HTC get used as and when I want mobile computing/video access and as a satNav. So for me all the large screen smart phones are too bulky no matter how thin they make them, unless they get so thin they can be rolled up...

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interzone55

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Wait until you see 4G in action.

I'll start to get excited about 4G once I can get 3G...

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WhiteTruckMan

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Aitchbee

You mean you're even older than This?

WTM

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Condom

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Matt Egan & FE

The site has been appalling the last 24 hours and is still very very slow. I did find FE's comments rather strange as well as they were quickly followed by Matt's apologising, yet again.

The site has been had many severe problems this year and I know if I was in charge I wouldn't be at all happy at what it is doing to the reputation of what is after all a PC magazine where people would I suspect expect better. Perhaps it is a time to be looking at who is doing the work and their competency. Clearly more was happening than just an iPhone launch as we are now inundated with more unwanted boxes appearing at the bottom and tops of our screens. Yes you can click off the bottom one but it only reappears again. Just get it working properly and then leave it alone instead of constantly tinkering and never getting it right.

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hssutton

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Nontek."I have a protective case on my Galaxy III, it is still just 10mm thick! I was surprised at how easy it is to operate compared to my previous HTC Wildfire - not bad I guess for a 77yr old!"

I mentioned on PCA a few days ago that my son had given me a Galaxy 111. In the past I've only used the most basic of mobile phones, but have also found the Galaxy to be very easy to use, mind you at 76 I'm much younger than you. Also there is an App that gives me almost full control of my Canon DSLR, something the Iphone is incapable of, though that may change in the near future.

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Condom

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What a poor response from Apple to its competitors. I have just cancelled my intention to get and her indoors is thinking the same. I think I will wait for the Nokia to come out as it has features I like as well as fitting in the hand so well.

I currently have an iPhone 4 and I cannot say it was a good purchase as the iPhone 3 is a much nicer phone to hold. The 4G seems to be turning into a bit of a fiasco with not only someone getting an advantage but the iPhone seemingly not able to work with the other $G specifications coming along afterwards.

As far ad PCA is concerned the past 24 hours have been pretty horrific as far as getting on and then moving around the site was concerned. This is just happening too often to be doing your reputation any good.

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Aitchbee

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I remember the days when mobile phones didn't even exist.

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WhiteTruckMan

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I remember back in the day when mobile phones actually got smaller.

WTM

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Flak999

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Forum Editor

Wait until you see 4G in action.

Trouble is, Everything everywhere which is the only network that is going to be offering 4G until the spectrum auction next year, uses the Orange T mobile networks! Where I live these networks signal coverage is awful, the only network that provides full 3G coverage indoors is O2, so I am pretty much tied to that for the foreseeable future!

By the time there is a compatible 4G service in my area the iphone 6 will probably be on the horizon.

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Forum Editor

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"once the ios 6 upgrade is available for the 4s what more do I need?"

Wait until you see 4G in action.

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Flak999

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I was really looking forward to the launch of the iphone 5, but now having read the review I can't see any reason to upgrade from my 4s. I wont be using the 4g service as I am with O2 and once the ios 6 upgrade is available for the 4s what more do I need?

There is nowhere near enough difference to warrant spending the money on an upgrade from 4s to 5.

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Matt Egan

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Sorry it has been slow over the past couple of days. We did put in some extra server capacity, but even then we've been overwhelmed by the response. It's not something we can do much about, I'm afraid. The site lives and dies by the number of people it attracts, so we can hardly complain when demand outstrips our capacity to deal with it. Hopefully it will settle down soon. Apologies.

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Forum Editor

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"I for one was unable to get onto the site to see what the latest offering from Apple was all about."

But you managed to get on so you could post that comment - odd, isn't it?

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Nontek

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I have a protective case on my Galaxy III, it is still just 10mm thick! I was surprised at how easy it is to operate compared to my previous HTC Wildfire - not bad I guess for a 77yr old!

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KRONOS the First

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How are we to know? Due to a huge increase in traffic today because of your coverage of the new iPhone launch. The unprecedented load on your server has slowed performance. I for one was unable to get onto the site to see what the latest offering from Apple was all about.

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wee eddie

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Perhaps someone will answer my question about such phones.

It appears to be a selling point that each phone be as thin as possible, this one is promoted as being 18% (.08mm) thinner, why?

When the first thing people appear to do, is to go and buy a case to protect it from damage.

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Nontek

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I have the Samsung Galaxy SIII, so am not overly impressed.

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