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Q: Can Microsoft's Surface tablet beat Apple's iPad?

  • 23%
    Yes, eventually all Apple innovations are overtaken.

  • 28%
    Yes, Surface looks fantastic.

  • 29%
    No, Apple iPad is too dominant.

  • 11%
    No, Android is the iPad killer.

  • 9%
    Don't know.


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Let us know what you think about Microsoft's Surface Tablets. See Microsoft Surface review

Poll: Can Microsoft's Surface tablet beat Apple's iPad?

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etious

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Forum Editor SimpleSimon

The Specs indicate that on the Pro tablet it is using an i7 processor. No mobile os supports that. and since it was built on the ARM cortex mobile processor yes it is a mobile device and uses mobile hardware but it is by no means a mobile os and it doesn't use a rom. It is a full fledged Windows 8 OS. I have tested W8 on a tablet and its the same thing but in final form. This OS can be upgraded because there will be different flavors as well and to upgrade/install you need a live boot USB. So for re-writing / over-writing the ROM, it wouldn't happen. there is no ROM. that os has a registry (cmd - regedit) and they do have a launcher but that's about as mobile as it gets. The apps are coded in HTML5 that's why they already have 100,000 apps and counting and the OS hasn't released. Running a Win8 app is like opening a dedicated web page that only runs that one page. You can still install full windows programs as well. There is no ROM, no office 365 because they wont push software like that to a mobile format when it can run on the desktop side. That is also why both versions of the tablet have from 32gb to 128gb ssd's its still windows but with a tablet friendly launcher.

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Forum Editor

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SimpleSimon1

The problem isn't the ROM, it's the fact that say, MS Word would have to be loaded into RAM in order to run, exposing the code to security risks.

Your copy of Office 2003 that was last updated three or four years ago is obviously vulnerable to all kinds of exploits, and although you might see it as 'rock-solid stable' the files you create with and save from it may not be so lucky.

My guess is that Microsoft will steer purchasers towards Office 365 - it would make better sense for a mobile device.

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SimpleSimon1

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FE

"Writing a copy of MS Office to ROM wouldn't really work - it would involve overwriting on the ROM each time there was a security fix of an update."

Of course you can't normally update a locked ROM but, equally, I'm not sure that code in a locked ROM actually suffers from the normal security vulns that occur in volatile memory.

However, I think it's a pretty moot point since, although I think it would make a very attractive offering, I can't see MS bundling it in unless they were sure it couldn't be pirated....and, you can't really guarantee that unless you've got a locked ROM.....but, then again, the last time I updated my copy of Office 2003 was a good three or four years ago and it's rock-solid stable (not like my flipping business copy of Office 2010).

Oh well, no doubt, all will become clear in due course :-)

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Forum Editor

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SimpleSimon1

Writing a copy of MS Office to ROM wouldn't really work - it would involve overwriting on the ROM each time there was a security fix of an update.

I don't see any reason why a starter copy of Office shouldn't be pre-installed however, in the same way that it's done with PCs and laptops.

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SimpleSimon1

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One option which would make it very interesting is if MS decided to ship it, at a price comparable with the iPad but with some sort of pre-installed 'locked' (in ROM?) version of MS-Office. That could be very attractive to the corporate market

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Forum Editor

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"I don't care if PCA get a flawed poll result by not offering an I don't care option, but I don't suppose that they care either..."

In truth we know that lots of people don't care about things like this, and that's just fine - what a dull place it would be if we all felt the same about everything.

What we aim for in these snapshot opinion polls is an idea of the consensus. It's pretty obvious that if you couldn't give two hoots about something you probably wouldn't take part.

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ams4127

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FE, I put that sentence in because of Apple fanboys who have been saying for quite some time that, because Microsoft had not entered the tablet type market, they were as good as dead.

If this Surface tablet is good, it will light a fire under Apple which can only be a good thing. It may make them sit up and take notice of the things that people want (the USB port being just one).

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interzone55

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bremner

Nope - I always check what's being installed through the advanced options, I never just press go on an installer file.

Nowhere did it mention Safari. Others have complained about this and I didn't happen last on the last time I installed iTunes.

I won't be installing iTunes ever again as I now have a Cowon MP3 player which allows me to chuck music on it any way I like, from whichever operating system I wish to use

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Quickbeam

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'Where's the option I don't care'

'As with any thread, the option is in not posting!'

But that doesn't give a positive opinion of any value to PCA, saying that I don't care does.

I'm a don't care too, and I don't care if PCA get a flawed poll result by not offering an I don't care option, but I don't suppose that they care either...

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Quickbeam

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Regarding the iTunes love/hate thing, I can't do with the restrictions placed on what device or on how many devices you can play a downloaded piece of music on.

I've gone back to buying CD discs and ripping them to mp3 myself so that I have full freedom as to how I I store and listen to them. Then I Ebay the disc back onto the market.

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morddwyd

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Judging by my experience of Windows 8 so far, anything running it is on a hiding to nothing.

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morddwyd

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As with any thread, the option is in not posting!

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Kevscar1

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Where's the option I don't care

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Forum Editor

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"Microsoft are an enormous, very powerful company. Ignore them at your peril."

I'm not sure about the "ignore them at your peril" bit, but Microsoft is certainly big and powerful. Apple is arguably as powerful, and it's certainly as big, in fact if you use market capitalisations as a yardstick Apple is as big as Microsoft and Google combined.

Size isn't everything, as they say, and in this case it's relatively meaningless. What counts in the tablet market is innovation. The market sector is already flooded with products - many of them pretty insipid - and it's growing. Microsoft is desperate to establish a presence in the tablet business, and you can be sure that it has worked hard to get this product right. Whether or not it has succeeded will be judged by the people who matter - us, the consumers. We'll buy many tens of millions of tablets this year, and if initial reports are anything to go by, lots of them could be made by Microsoft.

The iPad has established itself as the one to beat. Maybe, just maybe Microsoft could do it, especially if it remembers to inject some fun factor into its product.

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Woolwell

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I too have no problems with iTunes.

The Surface's success or failure may well depend on its price and what apps/pr0grams are available and at what price. I like the look of the kickstand and the USB port both of which the iPad could do with.

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ams4127

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I also, have iTunes installed and have had no problems with it whatsoever.

As to this Surface tablet which MS are going to launch, two things strike me. First, it seems like the first logical use for Windows 8 that I have seen and, secondly, it's success or failure will depend on it's price.

Would it tempt me away from my iPad? Possibly, and mainly because of multitasking (one of my iPad hates).

Microsoft are an enormous, very powerful company. Ignore them at your peril.

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Aitchbee

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When I'm on the bus, I always 'have a keek' look (shifty) at what the fellow passengers are deploying as means of communication/listening ....gadgets in general...as long as they don't make too much noise (silence is golden), then I don't mind.

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bremner

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Once iTunes installed Safari on a PC completely without my permission

No - you failed to spot the point in the installation when you could have take the tick out of the option to install Safari.

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interzone55

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Forum Editor

I've installed iTunes on three PCs, never by choice, but it's the only way to use an iPod. Each time I've had problems with the PC afterwards. Once iTunes installed Safari on a PC completely without my permission - I'd love to see what trouble Microsoft would be in if they tried that trick.

Again, iPod's look good, but the sound is appalling, too much treble

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bremner

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I think MS have said they will not support Flash either on their tablet version of W8. No Flash .

Too memory and battery hungry, HTML5 will become the defacto format it seems.

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bremner

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As an Apple fan I truly hope that the MS tablet is a real competitor for the iPad. With no real competition Apple can pretty do what it likes knowing people will still buy it.

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alan14

the dreadful piece of malware that is iTunes

I must be using a different version than you. I use iTunes all the time, and have done for a long time. It works perfectly for me. You don't have to be an Apple fan to appreciate a product.

I agree with you that the iPad is a "gorgeous piece of technology" and that it is certainly hampered by some restrictions. Chief among those is its inability to play Flash files, followed by its poor connectivity and upgrade options.

The Microsoft offering sounds good, but we'll see. This is Microsoft's début into the computer hardware market, and there may be some issues. On the face of it the MS Surface has plenty going for it - not the least of which is that it will make an ideal mobile office platform. It will need to do much more than that however, if it is to come close to challenging the likes of the iPad.

Let's wait and see. A lot will depend on the price point, and on its 'object of desire' factor.

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canarieslover

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I'm not a fan of Apple but on a trip to Lakeside shopping centre this afternoon I noticed that the Apple store had a lot more customers in it than any of the other tech stores. It was also very noticeable that the average age of customer seemed to be much lower than the likes of PC World etc. It appears to have a fashion type of following in the same way as manufactures like Nike so it may be hard for Microsoft to pull back the substantial head start that they have allowed Apple to gain in this field. Unless Win 8 performs much better on a tablet than it does on my PC then I can't see Microsoft catching Apple at all. Hopefully I am proved wrong as it is always good for the consumer to have more than one company vying for your money with capable alternatives.

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interzone55

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I'd need to see the price.

The iPad is a gorgeous piece of technology that is hobbled by the restrictions that Apple place on their hardware.

The Microsoft tablet will hopefully allow the user to work with the unit without anything like the dreadful piece of malware that is iTunes (how can a company that is supposed to have hardware & software "that just works" sleep at night after foisting iTunes on the world?).

Now I'll sit back and wait for the flames from Apple fans :-)

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Condom

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I have an iPad but it is restrictive in many ways and I'm also not a great fan of iTunes.

At last we have a built in USB port and with the Pro version having USB3 it will allow me to continue to work on my huge music collection. I will no longer need the flimsy USB add on to plug into my iPad.

It looks as if it has a decent keyboard which sounds better than my bluetooth one I have for my iPad. Yes I would buy one but not until I see how Win 8 works which I really haven't tried as yet apart from a few hours with a Nokia phone.

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