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Q: With regard to the Government’s £830m scheme to bring superfast broadband to all areas of the UK:

  • 6%
    I am confident it will deliver broadband speeds of 80-100 Mbps in my area by 2015

  • 16%
    I hope it will deliver speeds of 80-100 Mbps in my area by 2015, but I am sceptical

  • 30%
    I expect to see some improvement, but I don't expect 80-100 Mbps broadband

  • 41%
    I don't expect the scheme to have any impact on the area in which I live

  • 6%
    I don't know enough about it to make a judgment


(Based on 782 Votes)

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What do you think about the Government’s £830m scheme to bring superfast broadband to all areas of the UK?

Read more about it here - A third of local superfast broadband projects ready to begin

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octal

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I've already got 10MB broadband and it usually runs at about 9.8MB but the speed isn't the problem, it's the data loss which is making the internet feel like dial up at times, some evenings the loss can be as high as 40%, I can't even stream on line radio sometimes. My ISP needs to fix their broken machinery before all the hype of doubling the speed. Yes I have reported it to them and have a ticket generated since July 2010.

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spuds

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"Why pay for a mailshot to such areas?"

Perhaps to find out as to whether a major investment is needed in the areas not being covered at present. But's that only my theory!.

The area I live in is well covered by most of the company's plying for customer's for broadband etc, and Virgin have their engineers there on a daily basis. But whether they can offer the speeds that they seem to advertise is perhaps another matter. Looking at the charts via broadband monitor's and public responses. There appears to be quite a number of differences, even within a range of 1 mile from one speed check point to another via Virgin or Sky, other ISP's and their customers's seem to suffer the same fate.

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morddwyd

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"I have weekly mailshots from Virgin Media and Sky telling me about their great expectations via cable."

so do I, but when I take up their offers they tell me that cable is not available in my area!

Why pay for a mailshot to such areas?

Postcode selection/deselection is not difficult

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Chegs ®™

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It must be a worry for those funding fixed line improvements that 4G and what follows it could wipe their market out.

I have a suspicion that when 4G arrives in the UK market,it's price will be beyond the means of large numbers of people,so wired suppliers won't need worry too much just yet.If I get a new 4G capable phone,the bandwidth allowances are likely going to be so meagre as to be worthless.My present mobile is supposed to be unlimited,yet I just received a text from my supplier telling me I downloaded 680Mbs of my 500Mbs allowance last month so I'll be calling into the shop in the near future to enquire about this as my contract does also say "unlimited"

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Condom

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Chegs

You may very well be right but mobile companies also need to look at the price of mobile broadband. I keep an old Nokia phone in my apartment in Bangkok purely for this purpose as the phone lines often go down when it rains heavily.

The mobile connection is very reliable and in Thailand it is also much cheaper that fixed line which again makes it very popular. It must be a worry for those funding fixed line improvements that 4G and what follows it could wipe their market out.

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Chegs ®™

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I've had more ISP's than hot dinners,from AOL to Zen & some have been great(but pricey)& others have been crap(but free)

I've read a couple of articles in the local paper in the last few years declaring how cumbria was being given faster connections & chuckled because my own connection is unreliable/slow/fast/reliable but never consistent so can be fast & unreliable or slow but reliable(for a full 24hrs anyway)I no longer care what speeds I'm getting as I don't download large files and spend most of my time playing online golf.

If the ISP's don't pull their fingers out & get faster connections available by 2013(date according to Jason Bradbury on The Gadget Show)we will have the option of 4G which offers very fast connections with the added bonus of being mobile.My present wired connection is so slow that I'm buying a WiFi card for my desktop as my phone can be used as an access point and I often find that its speed is over 7Mbs,so for the rare occasions I need a reliable fast connection,I connect through my mobile.

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TopCat®

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Apart from following the well-documented fault-finding checks on a home network setup, I believe there is one other method that, for me anyway, often results in a faster broadband connection.

As I've said previously in another thread, my Talk Talk speed has dramatically increased since my exchange has gone fibre. Prior to this my speed fluctuated considerably, but the way I was able to get the best possible speed out of my setup was to periodically reboot my Netgear DG843Gv3 modem/router.

Even now, with my 7.2 Mbps speed lowering occasionally, I often find a reboot very helpful at these times. TC.

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Input Overload

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I forgot to add my brother lives in a new house & gets 12 megabit most of the time with TalkTalk & is very pleased. If could get anything approaching that I would stick with that too.

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Input Overload

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spuds - Fair comment. I must say moving to virgin was a idea that filled me with trepidation & I would have stuck with 'the devil I knew' if I had a have a half decent ADSL speed. As it was I was struggling to get 1MegBit. It didn't help that the phone installation was done in this house by Graham Bell himself it seems. The phone quality was bad I moved to virgin phone too so I had very little to lose.

BT didn't help either as the age of the phone installation (I don't even have a master socket) I think caused some of the problem & BT had no intention of renewing the wiring & moving to virgin gave me a new install from scratch. BT stated on several occasions that we only are required to give you a working voice connection, which I though was a backward idea 5 years ago. Now I don't use BT at all.

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spuds

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Input Overload

I think in some cases its not what ones willing to pay, its perhaps customer loyalty that blinds the vision. I have weekly mailshots from Virgin Media and Sky telling me about their great expectations via cable. but when I read some reviews, mostly from people complaining, I tend to think "better the devil I know than the one I don't", and it perhaps also saved the troubles regarding changing accounts and email details etc. Then there's the possible problem of contracts regarding terms and conditions?.

BT and Plusnet+ (virtually the same company)are also providing near weekly offers to me, and one of their main selling points is how my service will improve, if I change to them. Yet my present ISP in conjunction with BT seem to be having problems of supplying the quoted MB's!.

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john bunyan

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I think if there is a fixed spend on faster broadband, more of the spend should go on improving "base" level to, say, 8 Mbps (I now get 9.75 on a 8 contract). A target of over 100 Mbps is ok but it seems to me this is only really needed for those who wish to use high end games, or to watch films or TV via broadband.

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Input Overload

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I think following some recent threads on fast BB the issue I see is what will the end user be willing to pay, if anything?

For example my neighbour who is not exactly short of a few bob complained relentlessly for some time at the slow ADSL speed we get out of town here. I found that we have Virgin cable on this road & I signed up for 50 MegBit a few years back & let him know, thinking he would go for it straight away as he would also get a £30 voucher of his bill.

He was not willing to pay ‘anything’ to get a faster speed & still uses ADSL at 1.5 Megabit despite the fact he can now have either Virgin at 100 Megabit or BT at 40 or so.

What he does of course is up to him & we all chose what we do with our spare cash as for but me: I think it worth every penny to have a fast fibre connection & am willing to pay the equivalent of a bottle of plonk a week to get it.

In my limited experience I really don't think that many people are when faced with actually opening the wallet & paying out a few quid a month? New fibre & microwave installations are not cheap to deploy & I for one am not willing to subsidy others to get free fast internet.

I would be interested as to what users on PCA would be willing to pay as it may be totally differ ant to the opinion I now hold.

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spuds

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rdave13

A mystery it truly is. I started with Lineone/BT on the joint Surftime dial-up package, then Tiscali, now TalkTalk. All the way through there as been a speed problem, after the slow 'accepted' speed of dial-up days.

When various 'upto' packages were being offered to me, I had problems of achieving anywhere near what was being stated. Last year I read the riot act to the service provider, and fair dues they began to get concerned, with the end result that in conjunction with BT, major 'adjustments and modifications' were made. From a struggling 1Mb maximum, I now get 5Mb. Neighbours using TalkTalk are obtaining 6Mb, which BT have stated I should receive this also, but "there is a bug in the system, that they are finding it difficult to trace, and until they do so, they cannot provide more?". My exchange is 1 mile as the crow flies and an estimated 2.3 miles as the land-line lies.

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rdave13

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This download speed is a mystery morddwyd. It's taken me three ISP changes to go from 1.9 meg to just under 3 meg. Why one ISP can supply a better speed and maintain it is a puzzle.

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morddwyd

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"2Meg is high speed broadband?"

Would be to me if I could get it!

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rdave13

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2Meg is high speed broadband?

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albertovalls

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We can get 100Mbs using Virgin now and have been able to for some time and it will increase in a few months to 120Mbs, there is no vote to say you can alrady get it!

A reason for pushing Broadband? Broadband is normally on a faily fixed IP address that rarely changes but dial up changes every time you connect.

So Broadband is all the better to Big Brother you with.

BTW no 404 error

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albertovalls

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Vigin already supply 100Mbs here in SS2 and in a few months it will increase to 120Mbs, there is no vote to say if you already can get it!

Broadband gives you a fairly fixed IP address that rarely changes as opposed to dial up which changes every time you connect.

All the better to Big Brother you with.

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AitchBEE

"It appears to me, to be a Government ad....to fool you into parting with your hard-earned cash."

How on earth do you come to that conclusion - why would the government be interested in what you pay to a broadband service supplier?

This is a scheme whereby the government will help telecom companies throughout the country to facilitate high speed broadband connections in those areas which otherwise are normally seen as commercially not beneficial. Local authorities were asked to submit plans for their areas.

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Woolwell

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Another way to find the poll is PCA home page bottom right (long scroll down).

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Aitchbee

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It appears to me, to be a Government ad....to fool you into parting with your hard-earned cash. I still use dial-up...and I ain't gonna change.

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morddwyd

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This seems to come up whenever a politician is looking for a bit of cheap publicity, and has done so for the last five years or so.

It's all pie in the sky - for all their posturing I can still only listen to uninterrupted radio at certain times on a good day, and cannot watch streamed video.

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VCR97

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Yes, it did. Thanks.

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bremner

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VCR97

Fourm members alternate link works

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VCR97

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bremner

I'm getting 404.

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bremner

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FM - thanks.

In my very rural area distance from the exchange seems to have little relevance. I am 3 miles and get 2.5Mb on a good day, a friend who lives in a village 1.5 miles is lucky to get 0.3Mb which is typical for all the homes.

We are not on any upgrade list currently released by BT and doubt we ever will be.

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bremner

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Anyone else getting a 404 error when trying to access the poll?

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spuds

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Didn't Tony Blair state that 'all' homes throughout the UK, would have super-speed broadband when he was in power?.

How many years ago is that, and how many people are still struggling to achieve anywhere near the speeds the ISP's are advertising?.

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wee eddie

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Would vbe glad to see a connection fast enough to use YouTube with out buffering.

I live in the centre of Town and get about 15% of the advertised speed, God knows what speeds those who live Up-country are getting.

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