BT to cut off file-sharing customers

bill gates said on Monday, 30 June 2008

if music and film companies and governments were not so greedy and cgarged reasonable prices and taxes then people would not have to file share.
this is just another example of services we pay for being controlled for money making ends...happy 2008!!

mr brown - prime minister said on Monday, 30 June 2008

i will stop file sharing , it is costing us money in terms of revenue, we need all the money we can get to justify mp's 20% pay rises.

geeby said on Monday, 30 June 2008

one door closes another one will open

Roy Grant said on Monday, 30 June 2008

Privacy is all we have left in the UK therefore tell the (BPI) to get stuffed

James Caldwell said on Monday, 30 June 2008

Why don't the BPI get tough on the CAUSES of the crime. No problem has ever been solved by trying to contain the symptoms.

zaggie said on Monday, 30 June 2008

Hadn't BT better put their own house in order before chastising their customers for copyright infringement.
They illegally and secretly spied on their customers internet browsing during trials in 2006 and again 2007.

zaggie said on Monday, 30 June 2008

Hadn't BT better put their own house in order before chastising their customers for copyright infringement.
They illegally and secretly spied on their customers internet browsing during trials in 2006 and again 2007.

stalin said on Monday, 30 June 2008

The BPI is a law to itself, and is more imposing and authoriterian than the police force. The main problem is the cost of music, software etc- if the price was fair then there would be justification- the market place always decides.

moggy5 said on Monday, 30 June 2008

There are hundreds of isp,s out there all begging for my custom...if BT sods around with me I will change and keep changing till I find an isp that respects my right to privacy and Gordon Brown can sod off back to the land of sweaty socks where he belongs..they've got their own parliament now,what the hell are we putting up with a Jock running ours for?

Harry Clark said on Monday, 30 June 2008

What we should not forget is that the British Phonographic Industry along with and led by its American cousins, are the very same ones who have for years been employing hackers and the likes to seed the peer to peer networks with all and any sort of illegal stuff like Virus,Worms, Hijackers,Malware etc, in the forlorn hope that it would stop the file sharing ,having failed as it seems as a last resort they are now trying the legal route to get ISP`s to police their users
I hasten to add I for one do not use any of the file sharing networks but have spent many an hour cleaning up the mess these organisations actions make of in my experiance mostly kids PC`s who participate in Limewire and the likes , so to my mind this asks the question why is the law of the land allowing these organisations to continue unhindered

End of Rant

Cheers HC

Data Miner said on Monday, 30 June 2008

The UK is a soft touch. Strip them of all their privacy. Monitor them everywhere they go, in the car, on foot, in the air and on the internet.
they won't mind they're al apathetic.

david said on Monday, 30 June 2008

Hmm lets be clear on this.

it's Ok for Bt and Virgin Media to hold pre-payed in advance End users to the T&C contract for _SUSPECTED_ breach of copyright Infringment , a not for profit, Copyright [civil] case.

BUT, it perfectly fine For BT (and perhaps VM and cfw,) to not be held to the same legal document and rules for "Commercial Piracy" for Profit, of the same copyright protected Unique datastreams and website content they already have, and are making of the end users and website owners data property.

and that IS A "CRIMINAL Offence"

www.patent.gov.uk/copy/legislation/legislation.pdf

david said on Monday, 30 June 2008

BL, to see the CDPA table
www.ipo.gov.uk/crime/crime-whatis/crime-whatis-offenceguide.htm

Making or Dealing in Infringing Articles
It is an offence under s.107 (1) of the CDPA to
(a) make for sale or hire,
(b) import into the United Kingdom otherwise than for private and domestic use,
(c) possess in the course of a business with a view to committing any act infringing copyright,
(d) in the course of a business
(i) sell or lets for hire,
(ii) offer or expose for sale or hire,
(iii) exhibit in public, or
(iv) distribute, or
(e) distribute otherwise than in the course of a business to such an extent as to affect prejudicially the owner of the copyright,
..

david said on Monday, 30 June 2008

cant give much info with such restrictive char limits.
Making or Dealing in Infringing Articles
It is an offence under s.107 (1) of the CDPA to
...
an article which is, and which is known to be or where there is reason to believe it to be, an infringing copy of a copyright work. Anyone convicted of such making, importing or distribution may be fined or sentenced to up to 2 years in prison upon conviction on indictment or 6 months imprisonment and a fine up to the statutory minimum on summary conviction, or both (s. 107 (4) CDPA). The maximum penalty for any other offence under s.107 (1) is 6 months imprisonment or a fine up to level 5 on the standard scale on summary conviction, or both (s. 107 (5)).

george orwell said on Monday, 30 June 2008

Thanks for the information. I will NOT be renewing my contract with BT after this news. ISP's have a duty to their customers and NOT to the BPI or this progressively 'big brother' state ! Some (not all ) file sharing is illegal, though none should be illegal. The huge & wealthy industries of music/movies are way overpriced, particualry in rip-off Britain.
They should also realize that many downloaders actually buy the CD/DVD after first deciding they want it after listening/watching it following a download. Some people like to have the whole package plus extras that comes with buying, but at these overprices, prefer to see before buying.

The Irate Bay said on Monday, 30 June 2008

Never mind copyright infringement, what about the misleading information, poor service and dishonest business practices dished out by ISP's themselves.
When will authorities start confronting real issues instead of pandering to the greedy.
People in glass houses...

marchogifanc said on Wednesday, 02 July 2008

Hmm. i remember the 'home taping is killing music' campaign of the 80s. Home taping obviously didn't kill music and niether will file sharing. This can only be bad news for BT cos I for one will switch. Attack the little people, the easy targets?

kev said on Wednesday, 09 July 2008

sorry to hear this, i like bt but not be with them again so they are going to lose £360 year of me. how nuch are they going to lose by doing this, they are putting cams up every where tapping phones seeing where we go on internet what next tag us 1984 is here ( big brother) its all about making money now

itisi said on Monday, 14 July 2008

I agree 100% with Moggy5. Send Mr Brown back to Scotland to see if he can obtain a position in their govenment and leave them in the same sorry state that he has brought us to. This measure is just another nail in the coffin of our (English) freedom and way of life. You can bet that when Gordon Brown retires from English government he will be back to Scotland where he won't have to sell his home to pay for residential care. This BPI thing is just another way to obtain
extra taxes from us all.