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8 another Vista?


rdave13
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New Must-Know Facts here.

Dolby available- hmm OK.

No DVD playback in WMP... why?

Windows Media Center goes to pay for use... no cash for them there then.

Family Safety goes back to Vista style.

Explorer only available to desktops.

I'm sure I'm missing something but if you pay a lot of hard cash for a new OS you expect it to be an all singing and all dancing type which gives the buyer at least the basics of running a PC whether desktop or tablet.

Do Microsoft understand their customers I wonder?

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aquatarkus

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I have it running on a laptop that i gave to wife, she absolutley hates windows 8, its not a touch screen laptop just a Dell Inspiron 1530. She can't find her way round the thing at all, threated to throw it through the window or cut something of mine off if i didn't sort it out for her in the next 15 minutes.

As i have said in another post not sure what microsoft are thinking of but windows 8 on the desktop really is a no go.

Its been dummed down for tablets and the upcoming windows slate tablet / netbooks. try running the metro version of internet explorer

They are not letting you boot straight in to the desktop but only into metro (or whatever they are now calling it) its tottally unituative to use.

I would sugest that you download the public beta and try that but would really advise you to install a program called "classic shell" which lets you boot into the desktop and customise win8 to start up and look how you would want on a desktop.

Stardock have an app called start8 but its not as good as Classic Shell.

As said before i really cant see why microsoft are not giving users the choice to boot into metro if on a touchscreen / laptop / netbook and to desktop if installing on a pc / desktop, actually thinking about it i can NO ONE WOULD USE METRO if given the choice.

have a look at a couple of the dedicated win8 forums this one especially http://www.eightforums.com/

some interesting and usefull info in there.

I can see PCAdvisor forums and all the others being swamped with requests for help, how do i find my documents, wheres everything gone, what the hells gone wrong with my pc etc.

Regards

Aquatarkus

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sharpamat

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Well posted aquatarkus espically details of Classic Shell.Having downloaded and installed this, for me it changes Win 8 from no go, to possably a viable upgrade to Win 7.

Only had a quick look, but will have more time over the weekend.It def the best answer to microsoft removing the start menu that I have seen so far

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xania

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I may be missing a point but if you need Classic Shell to get Windows8 to work the way you want, why bother with it at all. Any third party fronting is likely to make more problems (if not now them later) and surely if it neds it, its up to MS to include it???!!!

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morddwyd

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"surely if it neds it, its up to MS to include it???!!!"

But you miss the point.

MS say it doesn't need it, the customers, or some of them, say it does.

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sharpamat

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The latest from Microsoft may well effect both the start8 and classic shell

http://www.windows8update.com/2012/08/07/microsoft-wont-budge-they-are-disabling-go-to-desktop-workarounds/?awtl=HaGAo&awtm=3V.FaSlCWF5gY18

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xania

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"surely if it neds it, its up to MS to include it???!!!"

bt I never suggested who might decide whether it needs it or not. And clearly MS have made this decision once and for all - never mind what the users want. Perhaps they will vote with their feet - at last. Me. I'm well past retirement so well past caring and I will stick to Windows7 until/unless it suits ME (as opposed to MS) to change. And I'll tell my remaining clients the same!!

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aquatarkus

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Sharpamat

in the earlier beta builds rightup to the RC there were some registry hacks that uses could use to bypass Metro and boot straight to desktop. Thats what Microsoft has disabled and what they are refering to in your post and link.

Start8, Classic Shell and StartX all work with the latest RC (release candiate) and RTM thats available (if you know where to look) The windows 8 activation servers are off line untill October for retail versions but if you have a Technet account the activation servers should go live fairly soon.

Can see these 3 small programs being very popular in the near future.

Regards Aquatarkus

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tigertop2

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Windows 9, now well into development I am sure, will open with a large 'Start' icon and an apology in bold script for Windows 8 ever aseeing the light of day

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sharpamat

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To Add to my last posting, after running Win 8 for past few days I have returned to Win 7. It seem that big brother extends further than just removing the Start option.

Updates it seems are no longer in the hands of the user, ( This is somthing I had not seen documented so far). I normally have mine set to inform me and let me have the choice. The only option in Win 8 is to turn off completely.

Otherwise Microsoft no matter what the user has selected will outomatically download and install any imporant updates including its software removal tool

Anyone with Win 8 running can read the new conditions on the set updates page

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rdave13

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Even in Windows 7 this happened with some updates but the majority were given the options you selected. The more I read of this thread the less I'm inclined to purchase 8 for the desktop.

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