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VISTA and disk access


iqs

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Hi,

I have VISTA installed on my media PC,I don't like it but its better then XP when used for media use,in my opinion.

The PC has 2GB of RAM,dual core.The problem is the constant HDD access.The HDD light is constantly flashing

I know that you can disable services,stop scheduled tasks etc.I have disabled some service and deleted all the scheduled task,but the disk access is still happening.

Any ideas please

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iqs

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Thank you for all your help mooly it was appreciated

Thank you BurrWalnut for the advice.

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BurrWalnut

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I suppose it is possible that you have some disk corruption.

Have a look at the disk log in Event Viewer:
Click the Windows Orb (Start) > All Programs > Accessories, right-click Command Prompt then ‘Run as Administrator’. Copy & Paste or type wevtutil qe Microsoft-Windows-DiskDiagnostic/Operational /f:text > %userprofile%\Desktop\Event.txt (note the five spaces) and press Enter. If you Copy & Paste the command, use mouse right-click to Paste it into the prompt.

Close the command prompt and double-click Event.txt on the Desktop to open it. Go to the end of the file (Ctrl+End) to see the most recent events.

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mooly

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Out of ideas I'm afraid.
Could some driver conflict etc do this... I don't know. Is it a PC you have, or have had built up or is it an "out of the box" product?
Would starting in safe mode and just letting it idle "prove" anything?
I know Vista was at first heavily critised for Disk thrashing, but not to the extent you are experiencing and most of those issues were resolved with the service packs I believe.
If you have Acronis is it worth imaging your current set up, then doing another install to see.
Don't go on line checking for updates/drivers etc, just install from the disc and let Vista instal generic drivers and see if you have any disk thrashing then.

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iqs

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Hi mooly,

Thanks again.Right.....

It is a cleann install,and the HDD light has always flashed since the install

The light constantly flashes non stop.

I removed all the security software I installed.The only app running is the VISTA firewall.

I have checked all running processes/services.apps,nothing out of the ordernary .Have run scans.

The items listed under disk various,from 10 to what seem like 100's

Prior to posting the thread I checked what I thought could be causing the constant access.

I know my way around XP like the back of my hand,but VISTA,I always avoided like the plague for this very reason.

Thanks again

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mooly

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Back to the beginning.
You have a clean Vista install. Has it done this from the begining, right after the clean install? If you boot up and just leave it idling with the desktop showing does the HDD activity not stop at all after say 5 or 10 minutes even?
At this stage have you any security package installed and running?
Open control panel and look in "programs and features" and look down the list at every item. Is there anything "unexpected" in there.
Are you sure you haven't any malware etc lurking anywhere.
Back to reliability monitor and Disk. If I leave that showing the items in "Disk" do constantly vary but the list can shrink down to as little as one or two items, usually system and svchost.exe.
Is there not one item that's always at the top of the list with the highest numbers against it that identifies what's reading/writting to the HDD
Running out of ideas now, if you look in "system" etc and even in the BIOS is all the RAM recognised.
Search indexer ! You say you turned that off. Have heard of it getting in a "loop" that turning off, reboot, turn back on can fix.

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iqs

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Hi is was a clean install.

The programs running under disk are system and svchost.

When first viewed when the PC booted,there were so many entries that it was physically impossible to count them all.
Even now the number of programs running is constantly changing.

Thnaks

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mooly

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In performance monitor above if you look at the drop down list under "disk" whatever is using all the resources should be shown at the top of the list.
For it to be at 98% something is canning the HDD.
Was this a clean install of Vista you did, or an upgrade, or preinstalled when you got the PC ?

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iqs

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Hi,

I have used defender to switch off non system dependent programs,and have disabled aero .

The following is what displayed under performance and reliability...

CPU 0% to 4% 100% max frequency

Disk 2MB to 15MB 98% highest active time

Memory 0 Hard Faults/sec 25% used

Task manager 33services

Thanks again

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mooly

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First the "free" AV which is only in beta yet, due to be available around October,
click here

I can only relate my experiences. I too suffered with "disc thrashing" for two years with Vista and spent ages reading up on all the tweaks etc that get mentioned, disable this or that, turn off such and such. Nothing made much difference. I thought it was "normal"
It's useful to put the "CPU meter and RAM" useage meter onto Vista's sidebar. Web browsing would cause a lot of HDD activity.
The long and short of it is that Vista alone isn't to blame.
Just out of interest how long does your PC take to boot from cold. I was getting towards 2.5 to 3 minutes, now it's consistently around 1'12" full Aero and sidebar.

On my notebook (3yr old, 2gb ram, AMD Turion 64 mobile processor) following a clean Vista install and getting it fully updated there is "zero" HDD activity. At this point there was no AV product installed. RAM useage around 27% CPU 1% when idling. All Vista's settings at default, nothing tweaked, not even CC installed. Task manager currently shows 50 processes running. At this point I installed the MS beta AV product. After years with paid for paid for packages I was absolutely amazed that this didn't noticeably impact performance. In the last 10 minutes the HDD light has never more than blinked dimly every couple of seconds. Honest !
Have you opened Windows Defender and looked in software explorer to see what start up programs are running. I have anything that isn't Vista related disabled (applications and programs I have installed).
If you open "Performance and reliability" monitor what is your Disk useage shown as ? Below the graphs are drop down menus, the one marked DISK will say to the right in % and kb/mb per second what it's running at. On this web page mine is showing mostly zero with an odd jump to around 12 to 16kb/s.
So what I am getting at is what's achievable... and all this with Vista at default settings. The thing is I haven't done anything to get it like this... this is Vista on it's own.

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iqs

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Hi brundle,thanks for the reply.I have checked indexing,it states its complete.But will do as you suggest.Cheers

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