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Windows 7 slower than XP Pro..


hawthorn123

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PcMark05 benchmarks run on my dual-boot (XP Pro SP3/ 7 Beta both 32bit) Dell Inspiron 9400 , T7200 2GhZ , 2GB RAM, GeForce Go 7900 GS give
5052 marks on XP, 4661 on Windows 7, XP performing better in all tests.

In the 'real' world ripping a DVD using AutoGK took
2 hours 8 mins in XP , 2 hours 28 mins in Windows 7.

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satchef1

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Popular opinion seems to differ by website, odd really. Vista is pretty much hated on here, yet go over to somewhere like Hexus.net and things are a bit more Vista friendly.

I'd be interested to know if there's any kind of relation to age? It seems quite possible that if you've been using Windows all your life then you won't like the UI changes in Vista and 7, there was a similar problem when XP launched. In theory the younger generation, who grew up on XP and barely knew the "Classic" interface, should have an easier time.

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Forum Editor

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who has been migrated from XP to Vista who is impressed."

Well I know dozens and dozens of people who are impressed, and I'm impressed, too. I'm now using the Windows 7 beta, and I'm impressed with that, too - it's the most stable beta version I have ever used, and I've beta tested every Windows version since 3.1.

If you look at the latest forum poll figures you'll see that over half the people who have responded are either using the Windows 7 beta, planning to upgrade as soon as it's released, nominating Vista as their next operating system, or saying they'll move to Windows 7 when they renew their computer.

It certainly doesn't look as if everyone's desperate to stick to Windows XP.

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hawthorn123

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If you are happy with Vista that's fine.
I just don't know anyone who has been migrated from XP to Vista who is impressed.
I have XP Pro and Vista Ultimate dual-booted on my PC and XP Pro/ Windows 7 ( formerly Vista Home) on my Laptop.
I have to support Vista users. I never find myself using Vista by choice.
As far as BSODs are concerned I haven't had one for years and the virus problem is vastly over-hyped by the industry.
If you use peer-to-peer file-sharing like Limewire you will have problems - if you use torrents and don't know your way round, you will have problems - the vast majority of users don't.
For anyone who wants to play high-end games or process video, then speed counts and Vista sucks.
Be nice if 7 had virtual-disk support, if WMP 12 supported all codecs widely used.. at least you can turn the UAC off easily without being nagged about it - a more useless piece of software I've never seen - don't they KNOW that in the real world people get confused and either say yes to everything making it useless or no because they are afraid and give up?

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Rob_08

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Nicely written and a good read (your post) .
I however havent had a single crash with XP Pro in the 7 years or more that i have used it. I havent had a single blue screen unlike Vista whch gave me a lovely "IRQL less than or not equal to" error on day one and also refused to restart after its first batch of 51 updates. !! Just sat there blinking a black screen with a _ in the top corner.Had to reset to get it start.
So that wasnt the best introduction to Vista.I also used it solidly for 5 months , so i wasnt a " install and remove it" tester , it also locked up a lot in the months i used it at work and at home, So i dont agree it is more stable than XP , not by long way. Although service pack 1 did help it a little. That is when MS say you can have it and if through auto updates !
However, although i dont like vista but still have to use it for work purposes occassionally, i was indeed pleasantly surprised by Windows 7 and how it ran straight from the off. But i cant see that i will move on from XP to it as W7 is far too much like Vista in terms of its layout and appearance, it is by no means the most friendly i have ever used, and i dont like the transparent stuff at all, not one bit.... but of course thats a minor issue as i can turn it off easily. So not huge gripes with the latest O.S from me.
I guess sooner or later though us lovers of XP will have to move on, but maybe just maybe there will be a ray of light after W7... who knows. For me though i say "Its good but its not for me"
I know i wont be alone with that sentiment, but blame Microsoft for making XP too good to want to leave behind, after all, it does everything i want for business and pleasure and it does it all quickly and efficiently,theres no real incentive to want to move on ,and remember newer isnt always better like much in this world.

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satchef1

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XP is buggy, insecure and crashes a lot (compared to Vista and 7). More XP updates are shipped out over Windows Update than for any other Microsoft product.

There is no way i'd go back to XP. I've been running Vista for 2 years now and last week i fully migrated over to the Windows 7 beta. In these past two years i haven't had a single BSOD or a single virus problem. I no longer run any AV software and the only firewall i use is Windows Firewall.

XP is faster than Vista and Win7, but the benefits of the two new OSes far outweigh the raw speed difference. The stability, security and far better file structure are worth far more to me than a little bit of speed!

That guy that Rob_08 linked to over at ZDnet is pretty much the prime example of the problem Microsoft are having. XP is up on this pedestal as being perfect. If there's two ways of doing something then the XP way is automatically right, even when it's wrong.
I'm refering to how upset he is at the lack of a "Run" button under the Start Menu. "Run" was included in Windows to give power users easy access to features that Microsoft doesn't want ordinary users going near. It short-cuts people to files found in the Windows directory.
Vista removed the "Run" button. Under Vista there is no longer any need for it to exist, the new file structure means the OS knows the location of every file on the system. You can now simply search for the file you want instead of having to know the specific command to access it.
The new system is quicker and a lot more flexible, yet somehow "wrong". It's pretty typical Vista territory really, more down to users not wanting to adapt than Microsoft actually doing things the wrong way.

I'm expecting a similar problem with Windows 7, people will blind refuse to adapt to the UI. It takes a few days to get used to, which will be far too long. It'll be uninstalled within a day and thousands of you will be back on XP, trying desperately to convince yourselves it's better and that the speed boost makes it all ok.

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Rob_08

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I guess we already knew this but....

click here

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Rob_08

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"I would love to say that Windows 7 is fast , secure, intuitive and contains genuine improvements over XP - I wish it would have a 'must have' feature or two"

But you cant because it doesnt ! I know exactly what you meant , and because 7 is not much more than a Vista service pack its of no surprise most people who loved XP wont be upgrading to either if they can avoid it. I had a pc built for me about 10 months ago with a Fast Quad processor and 4 GB RAM . 2 8800GTX's and the first thing i demanded was its ability to run XP. I had used Vista for 5 months previously abroad in my work, and i didnt want the second rate O.S anywhere near my home computer. I have used Windows since 3.1 and apart from Millenium Edition i have never been so disappointed.

hawthorn123, if you havent already take a look at this:

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hawthorn123

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anything other than XP', I'm simply stating what I observe - as I work each day building, repairing and testing systems for my clients.

I would love to say that Windows 7 is fast , secure, intuitive and contains genuine improvements over XP - I wish it would have a 'must have' feature or two - instead when asked by clients why they should buy it, I shall say to Vista users, 'because it is faster and easier to use' and to XP users, 'because you'll soon have to, because the new laptop you want doesn't have XP drivers available'.

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anskyber

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At least you are consistent, all your posts/threads are determined to rubbish anything other than XP. Take a break , you might enjoy it.

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Totally-braindead

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I'm the wrong person to comment on this as I don't like Vista, I have a new faster PC now and Vista would run on it like a dream if I installed it on the PC I have now, but on my old PC it was considerably slower than XP and I had some problems and had to revert to XP.

Now all that said MS do seem to be trying to improve Vista, you could argue that VW have done the same with the Golf as the MK 1 golf is faster than all the ones that have come thereafter but even though I personally do not like it I do not think that the work they did with Vista was merely cosmetic. They were trying to create a more stable system that was more secure so I feel your comment is slightly unfair.

As to whether they have actually achieved a more stable more secure system, this I personally have no real opinion about as I did not use it for long enough to feel qualified to comment but it is considerably bulkier than XP and since my XP PC runs blisteringly fast, and is stable as a rock and since theres no program I really want or need that runs on Vista only(so far at least) I see no reason to get Vista.

The differences between Vista and XP are not just cosmetic. Personally I don't think its an improvement but many people do not agree with my point of view. Everyone is entitled to their opinion of course. Ask me in say 3 years and perhaps then I will have had to change my OS and will be saying how wonderful it is but at the moment XP does me fine.

Not seeking any sort of arguement hawthorn123 but thats my opinion. I like XP and will stick with it as long as I can but I will eventually have to move to Vista or its replacement and anything they do to speed it up has to be better for me in the future. Remember when XP came out many people found that their old Win 98 PC crawled as the hardware was not up to it and to a certain degree Vista is the same. Its not just cosmetic differences between XP and Vista, I don't think its worth the perforamnce hit but thats me. I agree with much you say but not all.

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