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Posted April 18, 2013 at 6:19PM
I am looking at buying a new gaming pc with a budget of up to around £1000, I am not capable of making my own so I am looking at ready built ones. I have a preference of Intel I7 processor and I like the Nvidia GFX cards. So far the only one I have found is
I noticed the alienware range look nice, but they seem a bit too expensive and not that customizable on the website.
Is the computer worth its price, is there a better alternative to it, any help or advice would be very useful.
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Posted April 18, 2013 at 10:40PM
i would recomend looking at pc specialist.com they dont have the most extensive of options but they are well covered, ive just ordered my 2nd rig from them, good service and nice to have options on what you want :)also cyberpower uk have highly extensive options, with even the ability to choose fans and have proper watercooling installed :) the overclockers pc looks good, however, unless you do alot of rendering, and highly intensive programs such as photoshop, as well as doing other things at the same time you dont need 16gb of ram, and the difference in price is quite a bit, when compared to 8gb. also if your gonna be overclocking, that cpu cooler will be very ineffecient, hope this helps :) what will be your prime use for this pc?
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Posted April 18, 2013 at 10:46PM
i just quickly whipped this up on pc specialist, just a tad over 1100, but you get an ssd, (better than any other upgrade you could make atm, imo)and windows 7, cause windows 8 sucks big time :) Case ZALMAN Z11 PLUS BLACK MID TOWER CASE
Processor (CPU) Intel® Core™i7 Quad Core Processor i7-3770 (3.4GHz) 8MB Cache
Motherboard ASUS® P8Z77-V LK: PCI-E 3.0 READY, SLI, CROSSFIREX
Memory (RAM) 8GB KINGSTON HYPER-X GENESIS DUAL-DDR3 1600MHz, X.M.P (2 x 4GB KIT)
2GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 660 Ti - 2 DVI, HDMI, DP - 3D Vision Ready
Free Item FREE METRO: LAST LIGHT GAME with GTX 660 & UPWARDS GPUs!
Memory - 1st Hard Disk 120GB KINGSTON V300 SSD, SATA 6 Gb (450MB/R, 450MB/W)
2nd Hard Disk 500GB WD CAVIAR BLACK WD5003AZEX, SATA 6 Gb/s, 64MB CACHE (7200rpm)
1st DVD/BLU-RAY Drive 24x DUAL LAYER DVD WRITER ±R/±RW/RAM
Power Supply 600W Quiet 80 PLUS Quad Rail PSU + 120mm Case Fan
Processor Cooling Corsair H80i Hydro Series High Performance CPU Cooler (£69)
Sound Card ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Network Facilities 10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT - AS STANDARD ON ALL PCs
USB Options MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 4 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System Genuine Windows 7 Home Premium 64 Bit w/SP1 - inc DVD & Licence (£79)
Office Software FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft® Office® 365
Anti-Virus BULLGUARD INTERNET SECURITY - FREE 90 DAY TRIAL
Warranty 3 Year Standard Warranty (1 Month Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Delivery STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)
Build Time Standard Build - Approximately 8 to 10 working days
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Posted April 18, 2013 at 11:15PM
Thankyou very much for your reply, it is very helpful. Being a noob i just assumed 16GB is a big number of RAM and therefore the best option for gaming haha. My main purpose of this PC is that it will be a decent gaming pc, I play games like borderlands 1,2 Call of duty if they bring out a good title in the next few months, Civilization V etc. It will also be used for University as a word processor, Planning on buying a 27 inch HD LED monitor to go with it, if that makes a difference?
Is watercooling the best cooling option, if so is there a lot of maintenance involved with keeping it running?
Im not really sure what overclocking is if i am honest, i have a vague idea that it has something to do with pushing hardware past its limitations specified? Not something I want to mess around with as it wont end well for me.
Will have a look on the websites provided thanks again for the help frazerl
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Posted April 19, 2013 at 9:16AM
Have a look a Chillblast.
I would not bother with water cooling as it is more of a specialist area and does require more maintenance than the usual air cooling.
8GB is more than enough RAM for most of us and only if you were doing heavy photo editing tasks would 16Gb RAM be of benefit but then only marginally.
What you should be looking for is a decent Intel CPU, a smallish SSD (128GB) for your operating system and programs with one or even two 1TB HDD's for your games and everything else. I have a HDD just for my Steam folder which has around 400GB of games in it.And by keeping it on a separate HDd I do not need to reinstall all my games if I need to Reinstall Windows just do a repair of Steam and I am good to go.
Try and get a GTX 670 or AMD 7970 as a minimum graphics card.
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Posted April 19, 2013 at 12:54PM
your welcome, in your case i would go with an i5, not much difference from an i7 apart from hyper-threading, which is enhance multi tasking (i believe)it isn't really used/needed in general gaming, and for your price point id recommend getting an i5 3570k and upgrade something else, you will get better performance by getting an ssd than going with an i7, i7 is for enthusiasts and people who cant bare to say they have the so called "mid range" processor. do not worry that your friend has an i7 and you dont, if you have an ssd and he don't your system will be quicker. water cooling isn't necessary in your case, its for extreme systems and high overclocks. overclocking is simply pushing your cpu, gpu etc past its stock clock speed, also if you get a compatible asus mobo there is a program called ai suite 2(Google it, you tube it) is a foolproof program to help you in the world of overclocking, if you wont be doing this the stock cooler will be sufficient, however i can not stress enough that you buy a corsair h60i closed loop watercooler or above (they go up in values of 20, i.e h60,h80,h100) they will prolong the life of your processor and generally help your computer perform better, the fans wont have to spin as much to get the cpu to cool etc, and being closed loop means they are maintenance free, and they look alot better than some ugly piece of fan and metal lumped over your cpu lol. another few things you may wish to know, dont worry about the speed of your ram, ive seen plenty of benchmarks between 1600hz up to 2400hz and theres no real difference in performance. id recommend go with 1600hz, (ive never used lower tbh) and save some money for something else, an ssd is PARAMOUNT as your system drive, reasons stated above. graphics wise, go with the best you can afford mate,anything above a 660ti is good enough, two 660ti in sli would be awesome, but your mobo has to support it. im one of the lucky few who has a gtx tiatn on the way, but only becasue i went with an i5 over an i7, gaming wise this move is smartest i believe. what is your system atm? , what monitor are you getting mate? ive seen some really nice ones lately as im in the market for one too :P happy hunting, and hope all goes well :) cheapest option i suppose is to buy a book on how to build your own pc and diy it, oh one more thing, go on youtube and look for linus tech tips, really good techy, does lots of reviews, and helpful videos. and just remember more is not always better, think as to what your primary needs are in a pc, ie, all out performance at the cost of noise? or would you prefer a quiet pc and maybe not as powerfull harware, in this instance the case is your hardest choice. for me i want a perfect balance but that is somewhat hard to achieve, i dont really like the look of the so called silent cases, i want a bit of bling :)
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Posted April 20, 2013 at 10:43AM
Chillblast for me too if i had a £1000 to spend on a pc id choose this
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Posted April 22, 2013 at 4:07PM
I would agreed with Frazer1. Go with an i5 3570K CPU with overclocking, a 120GB SSD, atleast 8GB of 1600Mhz DDR3 RAM and atleast an NVIDIA GTX 660 Ti 2GB or AMD 7950 3GB.
The choice of card should depend on which games you play the most. In terms of raw power AMD provides more processing speed compared to similarly priced NVIDIA cards. However certain games just peform better with NVIDIA cards.
Good luck with your new PC.
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Posted April 22, 2013 at 9:38PM
Having a play around now on different custom pc builder websites. Thanks for all the input, I am now looking for i5 instead of i7, only 8GB of RAM, a SSD and I am intrigued by the corsair closed water loop frazerl mentioned. Yeah I think I want a bit of bling as well to be honest, I will be drowning out any noise with headphones anyway. Monitor wise I am leaning towards a 27 inch samsung monitor for around £249
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Posted April 23, 2013 at 10:51PM
The one that has caught my eye most so far is the thunderbird mart7 linked to in his reply. I have made a few alterations to the specs though, here is what I would be getting for £1097.77
Corsair Carbide 300R Midi Tower Case Intel Core i5 3570K Processor Overclocked to up to 4.7GHz Corsair Hydro Series H55 Liquid Cooler Generic thermal paste Quiet Cooling Fans Upgrade Pack (Is it worth getting these with the H55?) Asus P8Z77-V Motherboard 8GB Corsair PC3-12800 1600MHz DDR3 Memory (2 x 4GB sticks) Chillblast NVIDIA GeForce GTX 670 2048MB Graphics Card 250GB Samsung 840 Series Solid State Drive 2000GB 7200RPM Hard Disk - 6Gbps 24x SATA DVD-RW Drive Corsair CX 750W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified PSU Extreme Power Onboard High Definition Audio Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit
Anything I should cut back on?, or recommendations would be appreciated, I don't really want it to go up more than it is in price, but if it is missing something vital I would want to know. Thanks again
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