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Building a gaming PC. Need advice.
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Posted November 17, 2012 at 3:44AM
I'm thinking of getting a gaming PC, for around $2000, but $2500 max. (AUD)
These are the parts I'm considering:
Case: CoolMaster Elite 430 ($50) http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?mainpage=productinfo&products_id=14859
Motherboard: ASUS P8Z77-V DELUXE ($305) http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?mainpage=productinfo&products_id=19886
CPU: Intel Core i7 3770 ($300) http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?mainpage=productinfo&products_id=20139
CPU Cooling: Corsair Hydro Series H100 Water Cooling ($145) http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?mainpage=productinfo&cPath=20716045&products_id=17961
DVD/CD: LG BluRay and DVD combo drive ($60) http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?mainpage=productinfo&cPath=658667&productsid=18220
HDD: Seagate 2TB ($100) http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?mainpage=productinfo&cPath=210344&productsid=19554
RAM: Corsair Vengeance 4x4GB ($104) http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?mainpage=productinfo&cPath=1862181125&products_id=17753
G.Skill Ares 2x8GB ($95) http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?mainpage=productinfo&cPath=186912&productsid=20970
GPU, I'm considering these options:
ASUS GeForce GTX 670 DirectCU II 4GB ($550) http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?mainpage=productinfo&cPath=1931387&productsid=21577
ASUS GeForce GTX 680 DirectCU II TOP Edition ($640) http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?mainpage=productinfo&cPath=1931377&productsid=20326
x2 EVGA GeForce GTX 670 2GB ($440) http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?mainpage=productinfo&cPath=1931387&productsid=20210
-I'm don't care much for an SSD drive, I think they are way too expensive, and not worth it. I can wait. -I want it to last at least 5 years or so. -I don't care AS much for playing games like BF3 with insane graphics and FPS rate, I mainly just want to play games like SKYRIM and MINECRAFT (Tekkit) and have heaps of shit on screen, and massive battles with hundreds of NPCs fighting each, and blowing up 10,000 TNTs (Minecraft), with minimal lag. -I'm new to this shit, and know almost nothing about building computers, I've just done a lot of research, and there is just way too much stuff to consider. I'm considering getting a friend to build it, but I want a computer that I won't have any problems with (drivers, software etc.)
Any advice would be much appreciated, thanks.
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Posted November 17, 2012 at 8:28AM
You cannot guarantee no problems with drivers these things happen.
SSD's are as cheap as hell these days but I am assuming that you are based in another country where perhaps they are more expensive.
You have not listed a PSU which is a very important component and you should be looking for at least 650W.
I suggest the 670 as your GPU it is not much slower than the 680 and far better value for money. I have the ASUS GeForce GTX 670 DirectCU II and it is a great card.
Unless you are going to be doing a lot of video editing or similar RAM intensive tasks then I would suggest 8GB is more than enough.
I have just checked one of your links and you are possibly in OZ and I am surprised you consider SSD's expensive as the excellent Samsung 128GB 830 is cheaper in OZ than it is here. In fact your prices for components are pretty near to ours here in the UK.
I assume that you will be installing Windows 7 64BIT as your OS. Overall not a bad build.
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Posted November 17, 2012 at 8:29AM
Have a look at this. An excellent modular PSU.
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Posted November 17, 2012 at 2:12PM
Yes. Main question to ask is what do you want PC to DO? Presumably gaming & general purpose, but if you want to do high-end photo/video editing, or 3D design, the ideal combination is a lot different, to a PC whose MAIN requirement is gaming.
To be honest, CPU motherboard combination isn't IDEAL, for either. I would also be a little concerned about case. It's very much "budget", with not the best ventilation. A build of this quality really deserves better, especially if environment is warm.
Would also be useful to know resolution of your monitor/monitors, to better advise on graphics card/cards. Also are you "set" on nVidia, for graphics. AMD Radeon can be worth, at least, considering, for games like Skyrim, especially at higher resolutions.
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Posted November 17, 2012 at 9:30PM
I won't be doing any video/photo editing, just playing mainly sandbox games, and watching Bluray movies. And I'm not sure about nVidia card, I've just heard in heaps of videos that they "just seem to work better with most games". So I based my choices of that. But a lot of the Radeon cards seem a lot better, and are cheaper. Is there anyone that has had experience with both, recently?
And besides the RAM thing, I've also heard that an i7 processor is "useless" for gaming, and to get an i5 3570. But another person said that it is good for Minecraft (which is what I will be playing).
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Posted November 17, 2012 at 10:47PM
And I'll be playing on a pretty small monitor, probably 16-18in, if I can find a really good quality one that size. If not, then a 20in.
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Posted November 18, 2012 at 9:15AM
The i7 3770 is not a big increase in performance over the i5 2500K and certainly not worth the extra cash.
I went from a HD 6870 to a GTX 670 as I am a big gamer and I must say that I am very pleased. So far I have had less trouble with drivers than I did with the 6870. But I cannot compare the equivalent ATi to the 670 because I have not had one. I think the equivalent ATI GPU would be the 7970 so have a look around for comparisons. But I note you only want to game on a small monitor so a powerful GPU will be wasted. I have a 27" (2560 x 1440 resolution) so a good GPU is a must. So you might want to take that onboard.
Minecraft - to my knowledge - is still not multi threaded and is mainly CPU dependent. Therefore you need to invest mostly on a powerful CPU first and foremost since that would affect performance the most.
Something along the line of an i5-2500k or i5-3750k or the like. A midrange GPU ought to also do the job. Something like the GTX 560ti or wait for 660 or the 7850/7870
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Posted November 18, 2012 at 11:44AM
I've put this together, using PC Partpicker, which should give best prices in Australia. I've not included a blu-ray drive, as honestly their isn't much point, with what presumably, is 720p monitor. This would give you everything you need.
Something like this would be more powerful, but is frankly pointless without better monitor, so have included one.
For some reason, it won't let me select your chosen blu-ray, but you could swap that in, and would make more sense, with better monitor.
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