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New tax vs old tax


Dragon_Heart

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We already now have the extra bedroom tax, what will be next ?

We have already had the 'window' tax, which resulted in thousands of windows being bricked up.

I suggest a gnome tax, a barbecue tax and a conifer tax …. any other suggestions ?

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spider9

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"so that there is nothing the politician can divert to as a means of avoiding an answer."

Sorry, but how naive can one be?

There isn't a politician alive who couldn't (and wouldn't) divert any question put to them. It's a standard technique, taught at every Party training seminar to potential candidates.

Replies usually prefaced with..."But what I do know is......."

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carver

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spider9 another one is "but under the last government" this comes in handy when other options will not work, this way they just avoid the question completely.

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carver

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Aitchbee I think you are onto a winner with that one [a Politician Tax?]

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fourm member

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spider9

Missing the point again, I'm afraid.

Of course, politicians try to avoid answering the question. You'd have to be very naïve to think that anyone was naïve enough not to understand that.

My point is, they are given an open goal when the question contains a simple factual inaccuracy.

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Quickbeam

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I get the impression that fm could easily afford the argument tax...

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spider9

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People, often of limited means, are going to have to pay extra money to the government (or uproot their families and move house, if they can even find a smaller one!!) - that, in any language, is a form of taxation.

You , obviously, are also missing that point, again!

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fourm member

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spider9

'People, often of limited means, are going to have to pay extra money to the government'

My apologies. I made the mistake of thinking you understood this matter.

No-one is 'going to have to pay extra money'. They are going to receive less money in benefits.

Thank you for demonstrating the confusion that has been caused by those fools who decided to label this the 'bedroom tax'.

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carver

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spider9 so you see people are not being taxed, only fools call it that.

Now what is it called when you have money given to you and the government take it away.

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spider9

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Only a politician could be pedantic enough to espouse a difference between the government withholding cash from you and taking money off you.

Whatever way you look at it, it is costing people money to avoid having to move house.

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fourm member

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spider9

'Whatever way you look at it'

No. Look at it the right way and it is a discussion about the priorities for the benefits system. It is a discussion about whether more tax should be paid to leave benefits as they are. It is a fundamental discussion about the role of the individual (and her family if she is lucky enough to have one) versus the state when providing life's necessities.

And it is a discussion about the difference between private housing and social housing.

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