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The Rich Asked To Give Up Their Bus Passes etc.


Bing.alau
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I wonder if the bloke who thought up that wheeze is going to give up his travel expenses as well? I haven't got a link to it but it has been on the news a couple of times.

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Blackhat

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Possibly your missing link.

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Al94

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When I consider the amount of tax I have paid over the past 45 years I will take everything I can get and give up nothing voluntarily.

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Quickbeam

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Do many of the rich use a bus pass other than a metaphorical reference to their age?

i.e. 'I've just qualified for my free bus pass', as they drive off in their Roller from the Savoy Grill...

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spider9

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The devil would be in the detail!

What is a 'rich' pensioner? Many have small incomes but huge capital assets, house, savings etc. It will all depend on the definition of rich.

The most likely would seem to be to use the criteria of benefit claim, but I think that would cause problems as well.

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fourm member

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'The devil would be in the detail!'

Exactly. You'd hardly think Bruce Forsyth needs his free TV licence but how do you find a scheme that removes benefits from those that truly don't need them without it costing more to run than is saved?

The reality is, of course, that many of these things aren't benefits at all. They are bribes and it would take a very brave party to end them.

If someone is on low income, they need extra help but that doesn't mean you have to break that help down into individual things like fares or heating or the TV licence.

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fourm member

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I meant to add that when I wrote 'They are bribes and it would take a very brave party to end them' I meant to say that the perception is that it would be electoral suicide to remove them.

IDS might be trying to test the truth of that by seeing how many people are willing to give up money they don't need.

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Jock1e

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[ depend on the definition of rich ]

I think what it means is if you can afford to live without them that you don't need them.

And in my opinion nobody should have to pay for a TV Licence.

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spuds

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What is it with these Iain Duncan Smith type of politicians, when they seem to keep coming out with these obvious stinging statements for certain parts of the human race. Is this just another 'Think Tank' statement that a politician as thought worthy of a mention, so as to perhaps prove how in touch he is with things?.

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caccy

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A194 Totally agree with you. Perhaps those that have NOT paid in should not get these treats!!

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spider9

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A194 "I will take everything I can get and give up nothing voluntarily."

Unfortunately a very common attitude to take " because I've been a taxpayer, I am owed everything I can get".

Taxation is supposed to be a way our society tries to 'even things up', whereby those who can give most make life a bit better for those who have little (the sick, disabled etc).

If we, who have managed to do well in our lives, then demand extra services 'because I've paid in more than you', then society is on a downward spiral of "Devil take the hindmost" - not something I would wish to be part of!

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