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Identification Longshot and Talking Point 871


Brumas

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Good Evening All.

I’ll finish off with a GENUINE UNIDENTIFIED POSTCARD but which is really a TALKING POINT as I don’t think the ship could possibly be identified.

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Nontek

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Also meant to add - though apparently close to the metal structure, operators of the wheels usually stood at each side of the wheel(s).

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wee eddie

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My guess is that the photo is of a ship that was involved in, and survived, a memorable natural disaster of some kind. There's no sign of water damage, so it is unlikely to have been of a wreck that had sunk.

Possible, the Steering Flat of the inter island Passenger/Freighter that that survived the post Krakatoa, Tsunami, comes to mind.

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Bing.alau

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WTM. Ships masts are by design tilted/sloped backwards. I would think to counteract the bending of the mast by the strength of the wind. I am no authority on such things but when I made model boats as a child they were definitely sloped towards the aft (rear/back end) of the boat. When I was stationed in the dockyard at Portsmouth HMS Victory's masts had a slope so I imagine that is normal.

All ships keep a log of course and I would think that all those logs are probably still available in some dark and dingy office somewhere in the Admiralty. Any volunteers to go through them to see if they can find a ship's log which has recorded what happened? Not me. What a pity somebody din't write a caption on this postcard.

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Bing.alau

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Another thought but not really to do with this thread. Why are ship's funnels usually raked backwards too? Artistic flair by the designers? Streamlining perhaps? Maybe something to do with the smoke blowing back down the funnel?

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john bunyan

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Could this be a US Navy ship? Their sailors are allowed moustaches, and I think three steering wheels were a feature sometimes.

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Woolwell

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I wonder if the ship is being scrapped? Perhaps someone stole part of the wheels.

3 or 4 steering wheels near the tiller flat are not unusual.

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Bing.alau

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jb. I still think the man in the picture is a Bootneck. I can see the dog collar badges and the buttons on his uniform in my picture anyway. As you also know British Royal Marines were allowed to wear moustaches whilst at sea. We had a competition in our detachment on HMS Ceylon to see who could grow the best tasch. I think I came about half way down the list about 20th out of 48.

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bumpkin

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Brumas, where did you get the picture, any clues there?

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caccy

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HMS Warrior? Portsmouth before refurbishment?

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bumpkin

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I would imagine that there are 3 wheels as it needs up to 3 people to operate it so it must be doing something fairly hefty. A mast has been mentioned which could well require a lot of effort to raise it. The lighting in the photo I suspect was flash as there seems to be no shadows as one would expect from natural light.

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