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Can you get extradited from a privately owned island?


Chronos the 2nd

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I think the thread title really says it all. If I own an island but commit a crime serious enough to warrant extradition in another country, could I be extradited from my island?

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john bunyan

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" ships in international waters" are routinely boarded by security people - eg anti piracy patrols.

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spuds

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I know that you don't rate Wikipedia, but you might find some interesting information there about Radio Caroline and "pirate radio stations based on ships"?.

Wiki seems to suggest Radio Caroline was "Unlicensed by any government for most of its early life",

There's quite a lot on the internet, including http://www.mikekemble.com/caroline/caroline4.html

Now you might ask, what does Radio Caroline and similar vessel's have to do with "Can you get extradited from a privately owned island?". A very interesting point. My thoughts might be on the lines that the discussion was that they (ship radio stations or island) were privately owned and the law or change of law, had to find ways and means of deciding their fate?.

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spuds

"Unlicensed by any government for most of its early life"

Doesn't mean what you think it means.

If Panama didn't have any control regime over ships broadcasting radio signals the MV Caroline could operate 'unlicensed' but within the laws of its registry.

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spuds

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Correct me if I am wrong, but didn't the link suggestions I provided mention two Radio Caroline's?.

If a ship or vessel is "Unlicensed by any government", then surely that means what it exactly states, but I will bow to your obvious superior knowledge on this subject, and perhaps not think out to loud?.

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spuds

"Now you might ask, what does Radio Caroline and similar vessel's have to do with "Can you get extradited from a privately owned island?".

Well yes, and the answer is 'nothing'. A ship, even when anchored, is not remotely the same as an island, either for practical or legal purposes.

"My thoughts might be on the lines that the discussion was that they (ship radio stations or island) were privately owned and the law or change of law, had to find ways and means of deciding their fate?."

Your thoughts may well be along those lines, but you would be wrong if you think that there's any similarity between the two. A ship, whether anchored or moving is subject to international maritime laws on the high seas, and additionally to the maritime laws of the nation in whose territorial waters it might sail or anchor. The same laws do not apply to islands - privately owned or otherwise.

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spuds

'If a ship or vessel is "Unlicensed by any government", then surely that means what it exactly states'

I think any reasonable person would understand that, in the context, "Unlicensed by any government", refers to having a licence to broadcast radio signals. It is so self-evident that ships are governed by the laws of the country in which they are registered that the authors didn't feel the need to explain that point.

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morddwyd

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"the authors didn't feel the need to explain that point."

First rule of management - that which is not written down has not been said!

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