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So Iain Duncan Smith can live on £53


carver
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So Iain Duncan Smith can live on £53 if he has to, that was his response after being asked that question on a radio programme enter link description here so why don't you help him along and sign this petition https://t.co/knCCYVKTZM

He live rent free in a £2million country house… with at least FOUR spare bedrooms so put your money were your mouth is springs to mind.

He's the same person who said that disabled Remploy workers were “not doing any work... just making cups of coffee”.

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carver

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fourm member what has the amount of money I spend got to do with this posting, or have you really lost the plot and just thrown your dummy out of the window.

And are you are going to scream and scream till you turn blue.

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carver

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And as for your last bit "And you want me to pay more tax to support the benefit system?"

why not, you seem to have money to spare

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Joseph Kerr

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I seem to be missing an apology for being told I have lied. That's libel.

Thankyou for complimenting my spinning abilities but it is quite clear. "You are a tory" is calling you a Tory. Pointing out that you appear to be espousing Tory views is not.

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Joseph Kerr

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Do you not see the technique they are using, flak999? I find that hard to believe, from one so articulate. Did you look at my last link? What they are doing is giving you the worst examples of "scroungers" and making you feel it's all those people's fault. That cannot be the case; there aren't enough of them ,claiming enough, for that to be the case.

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Joseph Kerr

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Owen Jones will be on Channel Four news after 7. Some of you may wish to tune in. The rest of you probably need to.

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Flak999

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Joseph Kerr

Presumably this would be "Owen Jones" the fourth generation socialist, whose grandfather was a member of the Communist party and whose parents met as members of the trotskyist group militant tendency? Who wrote the book "Chavs"?

We are supposed to view him as an independent commentator in this matter are we?

I understand the technique he will be employing in his interview only to well!

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flycatcher1

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Where is the FE when we need him?

Whatever you may say about IDS he did have a job in the real world and he was unemployed before he ventured into the mayhem this country calls politics.

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fourm member

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Joseph Kerr

'I also wonder how that research post is working out for him.'

Since I don't have a research post it is a lie to say that I do.

You've achieved something quite remarkable. I never expected to find myself so closely in agreement with Flak999.

I won't be listening to Owen Jones. If I wanted to hear a propaganda rant I can choose from the various Kim Jon Un videos on YouTube.

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spider9

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Flak999

"to live in the lap of luxury because if it did what incentive would there be for you to go out and find work"

If you honestly believe that people on benefits are 'living in the lap of luxury', then you inhabit a different world to me. But if you repeat nonsense often enough you begin to believe it. Sad.

You, like many of your generation were fortunate to get a 'gold-plated' job that had many benefits, superannuation, etc - and most importantly not a career where there were constant redundancies, so, in effect, a job-for-life.

Not many people now will ever be able to dream of such a position and will have to live with daily fear of losing their job (or taking cuts in pay/hours).

It's so easy to categorise 'scroungers' and then hope people will see all claimants as such - the proportion of such people is comparatively small - yet it seems government policy is dictated by it.

There has to be a different mindset to tackle these problems and 'the big stick' approach is surely not the best we can do.

Divide and rule was never so blatant.

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fourm member

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carver

'why not, you seem to have money to spare'

I'm not the one posting about owning horses and how much it costs to keep them.

The biggest problem with the benefits system is that people think the state should deal with problems and leave them free to spend their money on luxuries.

I'm sorry for your son's problems - of course I am. But he is your son and you have the responsibility to help him.

Now, I'm sure that you are. So, when you've sold all the horses and are down to your last £5 feel free to come back and complain that the benefit system is not helping the truly poor.

As it stands, you've made IDS's point for him perfectly.

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