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Quickbeam

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Should a railway company really be actively influencing peoples decisions on the independence vote?

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Woolwell

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The Scotrail is not available on the East Coast services Scotrail club 55. The Senior Citizen card for those 60 and over is valid on that route and the return fare from Berwick to Edinburgh can be got for less than £15 which is cheaper than travel anywhere for £19 return with Club 55. So there shouldn't be a song and dance about this.

However will the Senior Railcard be valid if the Scots get indepence?

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Woolwell

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Of course if you wanted to go to Wick then it would be more expensive.

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Woolwell

The 'song and dance' just might be coming from people aged 55-60 who can't get the other card.

Quickbeam

I wasn't suggesting this had anything to do with the independence vote.

My point, badly made, was that most of the stories about Berwick changing sides are PR puffs with no underlying basis.

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spider9

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morddwyd "What intrigues me is the petty mindedness of the UK Government"

I would say "What amazes me...", because, by the Mail propagating these scare stories, I reckon they will 'put the backs up' of many more Scots.

The Mail traditionally panders to 'middle England Tories with a slight BNP bias' (in my opinion, of course) and they will love and agree with the sentiments - but doesn't the Mail realise that the only votes that count in this election will be Scotland-dwellers - and they are hardly in that category.

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spider9

'the Mail propagating these scare stories, I reckon they will 'put the backs up' of many more Scots.'

You are certainly to be admired for your continued blind faith.

The Mail has run plenty of scare stories about Salmond and the SNP and none of them has moved the opinion polls one jot.

Anyone who is truly interested in Scotland's future prosperity should be planning for what happens after the 'No' vote.

Will the SNP accept the vote and get on with working for Scotland or will it sulk and seek to show that the idiot voters got it wrong?

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fourm member

Back to your wild accusations once more, I see.

"You are certainly to be admired for your continued blind faith"

Pray explain to me, where in my post, in which I simply give an opinion about the possible effect on Scots voters in general, is this then construed in your mind as 'blind faith'?

Your past record of twisting people's words is well known on this forum - but even I find this latest a tad ridiculous (even for you!).

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"Will the SNP accept the vote and get on with working for Scotland or will it sulk and seek to show that the idiot voters got it wrong?"

Well the first thing they will have to do is elect a new leader, for Salmond will be finished.

He has worked all his life for this one throw of the dice, unfortunately too successfully, for once he got the train rolling he was carried along with it and it's now travelling too fast for him to get off, even though he knows it is far too soon for a referendum.

The SNP have always said that in the event of a No vote they would forget it for a generation, and I have no reason to doubt that.

They will need to lick their wounds for some years, and build up resources, but as a modern generation is only reckoned to be sixteen years many of you will see this issue raised again.

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spider9

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I would think the post-referendum situation will depend also, on the margins of win/lose.

If the reult was a crushing defeat for independence, then I agree a 'generation' will be the next timescale. However, if the defeat were 'marginal' then I simply cannot see the SNP supporters going away - the fact they got this far would likely be enough to keep them going.

Presumably the SNP, the largest governing Party, would not simply close down and let Scotland return to the English Party setup, Lab/Lib/Tory?

In many ways the genie is already out of it's bottle - interesting times lie ahead, whichever way it goes.

fm - I do have blind faith that it will be either 'Yes' or 'No', next year!!)

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spider9

Oh, please.

I'm not going to go back through the forum archives to find all the other occasions you have put forward your opinion that such and such will drive Scots towards voting for independence.

The 'blind faith' I referred to was your obvious belief that things said or done by English politicians and the media will impact on support for Salmond.

That hasn't happened in the year plus that this topic has been around and it isn't going to happen now.

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