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Papal Abdication


Quickbeam

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The religious implications of this don't matter a jot me me, and many millions more. But I see that the favourites include African and South American candidates, both being hugely over populated poor continents.

I wonder if either of these were to succeed, a new enlightenment towards sheath contraception on health grounds, and the obvious acceptance of the side effect of birth control can be at all contemplated within the Church of Rome for the 21st century and beyond?

Or will they continue with the medieval head in the sand approach?

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Quickbeam

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Aitchbee

That's a sin...

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Aitchbee

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I think that there MUST be [now] many 'youngish' Cardinals who have a modern approach to everyday life which encompasses 'family planning methods', who are 'at this moment in time' regarded as conservative in their outlook[s], but may, if elected as Pope next month, turn out to be ... a Godsend [for the Catholic Church], with liberating policies on sexual health and contraception, and so influence many millions of people, for the betterment of mankind.

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fourm member

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I had a chuckle, yesterday. I don't know if it was coincidence or quick thinking by the producer but Jeremy Vine's Radio2 programme started with KC and the Sunshine Band's 'Give it up'.

That's about the only thing that has had me smiling, mind.

There's a lot of double standards going on. I've heard, on various programmes; that abortion is always murder, that child abuse by clergy was a minor problem that's all sorted out, that the question of women priests is settled and will never be brought up again, that more people go to church than vote and that's without all the hate-filled homophobia.

These days, we're used to Christians responding to criticism or mockery by saying 'You wouldn't dare say that about Islam'.

But it works the other way. If Muslims had been talking about, say, why cutting off hands is a fair punishment, or why a raped wife should be executed for adultery there would be outrage. So, why can Catholics get away with spreading hate and lies?

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Woolwell

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"So, why can Catholics get away with spreading hate and lies?" They don't get away with it as far as I am aware.

Going back to a previous post not agreeing with or understanding homosexuality doesn't automatically equate to hate-filled homophobia. Do you have theophobia?

I'm not a Catholic and there are many things that they do that I don't understand or agree with.

I do hope that they choose a younger person with a more liberal attitude.

Back to the original post I wasn't aware that heads in sand was medieval or is this a variant of hair shirt?

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fourm member

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Woolwell

'They don't get away with it as far as I am aware.'

Really. I haven't heard of any outcry about some of the things that have been broadcast by the BBC in the past 24 hours.

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interzone55

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Aitchbee

Bono should definitely be an outsider as he's not a Catholic, he was raised Church of Ireland...

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Aitchbee

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...Dickie Dawkins' odds are 666/1 ...

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Aitchbee

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I would [jolly well] think that the majority of the Roman Catholic priests in Scotland and in Italy will be more concerned with the outcome of tonight's big match between Celtic & Juventas.

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flycatcher1

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I am not a Catholic, Lord forbid, but electing a young man as Pope could cause a problem. As Popes, normally, stay in post until they die they could have the same Pope for forty years or more, best to elect an older man with a young outlook.

From what I read the present Pope has selected Cardinals to suit his style which does not give much hope for the liberal teaching that the RC World desperately needs.

I was once told always to fly with Old Pilots - but not too old.

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Forum Editor

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flycatcher1

In 1994 Pope John Paul II spoke infallibly when he ruled out the possibility of women ever being ordained and furthermore decreed that Catholics should not even talk about the issue any more.

Which seems to me to provide the perfect justification - if one was needed - for electing a younger and more progressive man to be the next Pope.

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