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Crumbling road surfaces


WhiteTruckMan

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I know the weather has been especially bad the last two weeks or so, but does it seem to anyone else that the main roads at least are crumbling before our very eyes?

Or is it just me?

WTM

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fourm member

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carver

'that is not the fault of the workmen'

Which is why I didn't suggest that is was.

When I said 'Highways bodies' I didn't mean the people doing the work.

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HondaMan

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"that is not the fault of the workmen"

We had a gang of workmen, 2 to be precise who were sent to repair a hole in my village. They blew the water and leaves out of the hole with what seemed like a large hair-dryer and then filled it with whatever it is they use. I do not know the name, merely that it was cold.

Having laid the repair material; in the hole, which by now had more water in it, they realised that they had nothing with which to tamp it down .

SOLUTION? They drove their lorry over it a few times!

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finerty

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im waiting for the day when a bus or HGV will fall into a collapsed road all because it wasn't repaired properly. Then we can see who is at fault and who will try to claim compensation.

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Bing.alau

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finerty. Unfortunately, someone may also lose their life in the process. Nothing compensates for that.

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fourm member

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finerty

Highways authorities do pay compensation if someone gets damaged by a poor road surface.

They play a balancing game between how much they pay in damages versus how much it would cost to put the roads right.

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Number six

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FM:

Quite agree. Unfortunately, this "just good enough" policy can be applied to countless other public services, utilities, manufacturing etc.

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spuds

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Perhaps taking this a step further. It doesn't help much when one utility service decides to work on an underground product repair or project, and then a few weeks later some other utility company decides to do the same.

The pavement surfaces around my neck of the woods are now like patchwork quilts, with different shades and levels of tarmac or paving slabs. Only the other month I took this up with our local councillor's, but received no joy from them at all.

Talking about compensation, we have had three elderly people suffer falls on these 'bad' pavements nearby (one very serious), but trying to find out if compensation was claimed or paid out, or what had been done, is proving rather difficult, because the council are stating that it is 'client confidentiality' and these issues cannot be discussed?.

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fourm member

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spuds

There is a law that attempts to deal with this. I think it is the New Streetworks Act.

The idea is that utilities have to announce they are going to do some work and give other utilities a chance to join in at the same time. Once work is complete, the surface is not supposed to be touched for a period. (I can't recall if it's one or two years.)

But, there's always a but, there is an exception for emergencies so any utility that wants to work during the untouchable time just has to say the repairs are an emergency.

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spuds

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fourm member

I believe that act as been on the books for quite a few years now, in fact it was (just) when I was working in the police force, just before I took retirement. This was also about the time when new 'cable television' companies and contractor's were having a field day with 'groundwork' installations.

I also remember the days as far back as the 1960's when places like Singapore had and used these regulations regarding sharing information very successfully, the UK seemed a very late follower. And to this day, I am sure a number of utility company's or their contractor's tend to turn a blind eye to some of the regulations that they are suppose to abide by first and foremost. One example across the road from me. Second week in November 2012 a hole was dug in the pavement area outside a neighbour's drive. The hole had barriers place around it, while parts were ordered/obtained. Early December the contractor's returned and fitted the replacement part, then part filled the hole. Third week in December, two men turned up and while it was poring with rain, placed tarmac in the hole,tampered it down a little, left barriers and signs in an heap on pavement. Two weeks ago, neighbour had to phone utility company and ask if they were going to collect the barriers and signs. They were collected last Thursday by a specialist collection team, whose sole purpose is to deliver, erect and collect barriers and signs?.

Taking the 'patchwork quilt' reference. When Gas Alliance came into the area and other areas around the city, so has to change the 'aged' underground services, we were all promised that first class work would be undertaken on surface work, in fact they had specialist team's for doing this. When I got them back to my property due to sub-standard workmanship (concrete cracking, tarmac different level and various noticeable materials colour changes, the explanation was one of " the men are on a bonus scheme"?.

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Aitchbee

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I am very pleased to report back that the crumbling 'library' road I mentioned earlier has been repaired ... BIG TIME!.

Over the past two weeks the mile-long road,[Castlemilk Drive], Glasgow southside, has been closed for 'major road repairs'. All of the local 'first bus' public buses [5, 34, 46, 75] and all other vehicles, have been rerouted, backwards 'n' forwards, [past my front window] along another major thoroughfare [Carmunnock Road] which has also had it's pavement widened by about 1 metre, on one side [ going uphill], ... a workman told me yesterday "It's going to be a CYCLE TRACK up to 'Cathkin Braes'."

It's suppose it's just the city of Glasgow 'getting ready' for the Commonwealth Games next summer.

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