We use cookies to provide you with a better experience. If you continue to use this site, we'll assume you're happy with this. Alternatively, click here to find out how to manage these cookies

hide cookie message
Contact Forum Editor

Send an email to our Forum Editor:


PLEASE NOTE: Your name is used only to let the Forum Editor know who sent the message. Both your name and email address will not be used for any other purpose.

Speakers Corner


It's free to register, to post a question or to start / join a discussion


 

EU In/Out? Is a referendum the best way?


spider9
Resolved

Likes # 0

I'd always thought we were a Parliamentary Democracy, and, as such, we elect paid representatives to take difficult decisions on our behalf.

Membership of Europe is a difficult , complicated topic, and most people (including myself) would be hard pushed to appreciate all the pros and cons - so the populace will now be bombarded by media propaganda aimed at the lowest common denominator, I suspect.

Loads of 'crazy' EU stories will emerge and be fed to the Great British public, with 'good' EU stories being more difficult to show. Hence the media barons will, once again, get their way and politicians can then 'blame' us if it turns out bad.

Weak leadership I'm afraid.

Like this post
Quickbeam

Likes # 0

Quite right HB, we do indeed change our opinions over time. After 40 years most of us have changed opinions over most things in life.

Like this post
Quickbeam

Likes # 0

Er, you weren't talking about becoming The New & Improved HB were you...?

NQB:)

Like this post
Quickbeam

Likes # 0

...I wonder what the New FE will make of all this?

Like this post
New FM

Likes # 0

john bunyan

'Your choice'

Not really. No choice.

I thought about going the Bing(.)alau route and becoming four.m member but decided New FM was quicker to type for people with the red mist in their eyes.

Like this post
Quickbeam

Likes # 0

NFM's even quicker is it's serious red mist!

Like this post
Aitchbee

Likes # 0

QB - HBTieAce or HBIceTea ... just wouldn't be me :o)

Like this post
morddwyd

Likes # 0

" is it also weak leadership for Salmond to offer the independence referendum choice to the Scots instead of making their decision for them?"

Not quite the same.

Despite his own personal convictions, Salmond has always said he would let the people decide through a referendum. He has fought all his campaigns with this as a major plank.

Cameron, on the other hand, has decided this is an unpopular decision, which he does not wish to make.

Just as Salmond ran a full term as a minority government, and Cameron didn't think he could face it, simply different styles of leadership is all.

Like this post
Quickbeam

Likes # 0

"Cameron, on the other hand, has decided this is an unpopular decision, which he does not wish to make."

I think that he's quite shrewdly managed to get all the politicians to dance to his tune at the next election by doing this.

UKIP are made irrelevant at a stroke, the LibDems are thrust into turmoil and confusion being the most EU supportive party, in a country that's among the most EU sceptical states, and Labour that didn't want the EU mentioning because they're not too sure what their stance is, are forced into offering something similar, or risk disappearing to where there is not much sunlight for 10 years.

Weak leadership, or a master stroke to win a UK election with a safe working majority...?

That all depends which side of the fence you want to fall to.

Like this post
Aitchbee

Likes # 0

On a practical note, will the EU referendum votes be collected over the usual electoral finite 7am-10pm time period or will the voting platform be of a digital nature only, by the time the British public have their say in 2017? Many of the traditional voting polling stations near my house, have been razed to the ground recently, ie. Primary Schools.

Like this post
Bing.alau

Likes # 0

Bingalau became Bing.alau purely by accident and was too lazy to change it back again. I think john bunyan should change his monicker by using capital letters and become John Bunyan. Aitchbee should of course use a capital and become Haitchbee. I've feeling his initials are probably H.B. anyway. I have no idea how much lead he has in his pencil though.

Like this post

Reply to this topic

This thread has been locked.



IDG UK Sites

Best Christmas 2014 UK tech deals, Boxing Day 2014 UK tech deals & January sales 2015 UK tech...

IDG UK Sites

Chromebooks: ready for the prime time (but not for everybody)

IDG UK Sites

Hands-on with Sony's latest smartglasses

IDG UK Sites

The 13 most inspirational Tim Cook quotes