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Hellicopter crashes at Vauxhall in London


Jock1e
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Helicopter crashes in flames at Vauxhall in London Near the Bus station.

It appears that it hit a Crane on top of a building before falling to the ground in flames.

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Jock1e

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SillBill

If the highest building is 600ft surly the pilot should have been flying at over 800ft at least.

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Woolwell

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morddwyd - at that height may not have been under radar surveillance but whether he was under radar surveillance is probably irrelevant. ATC would have no idea about his briefing (probably self-briefed).

Jock1e - helicopters do fly low he was enroute to Battersea not far away. He would not have been given the wrong instructions.

There is no point in speculating as at this stage we don't know all of the facts eg did he have a malfunction?

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bumpkin

"If a helicopter flies over London and crashes into a crane then it wasn't safe."

Single engined helicopters are normally restricted to designated routes along the river Thames. If they need to deviate from those routes they would be cleared to do so by air-traffic control. In this case the pilot was inbound to Elstree airport, which is not far from where I live, but conditions here were pretty foggy early on, and he had asked for permission to divert to Battersea heliport.

High buildings must be lit with aircraft warning lights, and cranes on the tops of buildings must also be lit, and be notified to air traffic control. The pilot of the helicopter in today's accident should have been notified about the crane when he asked for his diversion permission.

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spuds

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Whatever the reasons this was a terrible tragedy and many more lives could have been lost that day.

When buildings get higher and traffic (both air and ground) gets more denser, then there is bound to be higher risks and all eventualities can never be covered.

A few years ago, we had an helicopter incident not far from where I live. Everyone was killed in that incident, and it all finally came down to sudden change in weather conditions (fog) and pilot error.

There was also another local helicopter incident with a fatality, when the police helicopter flew into nearby power lines outside the base. The helicopter pilot's were well aware of these power lines, but on this particular event I believe fog and pilot error again took its toll. The replacement police helicopter still flies from this same base.

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Jock1e

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Slightly off the subject but one of the forum members posted a photo of a Crane all lit up like a Xmas tree on here about a month or so ago.

Maybe that is something to think about in future when using High cranes anywhere.

Just putting one or two lights on it would be hard to see in misty weather.Lit up like an Xmas tree would be hard to miss.

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Jock1e

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Just checked the Photo has gone now but maybe Chronos the 2nd will be able to post it again if he still has it.

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Woolwell

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More information is becoming available about this crash. It is being reported that Battersea could not contact the helo Telegraph report.

This was a twin engined aircraft. A bit more about the rules of flying over London BBC News

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Bing.alau

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I think helicopters are not allowed to fly over a certain height in the London area because of the flight paths in to other airports. So with a minimum height and a maximum height, they are sort of squashed in to a sandwich like area.

As for the crane driver/operator, one of his workmates said he was lucky because he hadn't arrived when the accident occurred. I didn't hear any of his co-workers say he was half way up the thing when it happened. But if that was so then he must be still suffering from shock. Whichever, I bet he was glad it was his turn to run his children to school that morning.

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Jock1e

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Bing.alau

That was another story yesterday from a few different sources whether true or not I don't know.

He was supposed to be getting treatment from shock,But we can only take those comments on face value.Only those that were there at the time will know the proper story.

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VCR97

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The crane driver was on Radio 4's PM programme this evening. He overslept (because his kids had overslept and he relies on them to wake him!) and had just arrived on site when the crash occurred. He said that the event would not put him off working on cranes.

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