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Al94
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Ok, I know I'm probably asking for trouble here but something I saw yesterday that really irritated both my wife and myself.

Sir Ian McKellen (an actor who I usually have respect for) was interviewed on the Andrew Marr show yesterday morning. I didn't see the entire interview but we were both incredulous at the part where he said he was off to Edinburgh to visit and talk to schools to promote homosexuality and affirm the ideal that it was ok to be gay. He said school children's jaws usually dropped when they heard that it was once possible to be jailed for being in love with someone of the same sex.

As a parent (albeit of offspring now old enough to make their own minds up) I would have been incensed if I thought that sort of message was being sent out to my family in our schools. It is bad enough that so many children's tv programmes portray this as a totally normal alternative.

I don't consider myself to be homophobic, I am opposed to gay marriage per se as I believe marriage should be reserved for the traditional male/female partnership but at the same time I know several gay people and don't have any issue with their relationships - what they do is entirely their own business. I respect them and they respect my opinion.

I just think it is entirely inappropriate that our young people from an early age appear to be having the message thrust on them that this is an entirely open acceptable norm.

Am I wrong?

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nickf

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Humans are geared to the advancement of there own genes , and not the species . And you seem to be missing the point of my original post , I was making the point thathomosexual behaviour is abnormal , and should not be activly promoted .

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Joseph Kerr

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That's it, stay in the box. Life gets very frightening when you think anywhere other than inside the box!

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nickf

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So are you saying we as a society should Actlvly promote abnormal behaviour ?

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wee eddie

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Just a thought: If Homosexuality was inherited! It would have died out 2 Million Years ago.

Homosexuality is, in my opinion, one of the vast range of Human variations that exist and no more weird than being a Ginger or a Blond!

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nickf

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As you say homosexuality is not inherited , so cannot be compared with genetic differences like hair colour , it is a learned behviour that serves no useful purpose in society .

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nickf

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It is not normal behaviour , therefore it is abnomal behaviour , if it is not learned behaviour , what is it ? It can't be inherited behaviour , otherwise , as a previous poster said , it would have died out thousands of years ago . Also you are presuming that I dislike homosexuals , just because I am trying to have an open discussion on a subject

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nickf

"So are you saying we as a society should Actlvly promote abnormal behaviour ?"

I haven't seen anyone making that proposal, but even if they had, what has it got to do with homosexuality, which is not abnormal behaviour?

I very much doubt that anyone would want to "actively promote" homosexuality, because that would imply that it's a matter of choice whether or not a person is homosexual. That's not the case, so no amount of active promotion would have much effect. Homosexuality is not 'learnt' or acquired, it's a sexual orientation which feels perfectly natural to homosexuals.

What we, as an enlightened society, have decided is that there should be no persecution of, or discrimination against a person because of his or her sexual orientation. We were right to do so, and serving a useful purpose in society has got absolutely nothing to do with the matter.

Tell me this: Would a celibate heterosexual serve a more useful purpose in society than a celibate homosexual?

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spider9

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nickf

I still cannot see your point about procreating and/or advancing your genes.

As a male, if I wished to advance my genes I find a womb and place my sperm in it, then wait for nine months. Does it matter if I were homosexual, or do you think homosexuals cannot produce their own sperm?

Similarly for a female, find a male willing to donate to you, and your genes are advanced nine months later.

QED?

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nickf

"It can't be inherited behaviour , otherwise , as a previous poster said , it would have died out thousands of years ago"

Homosexuality isn't a 'behaviour', it's an orientation. That's the first thing to get right.

Secondly, no single, conclusive cause for sexual orientation has yet been found. Numerous studies have failed to come up with any concrete evidence as to cause, and theories abound.

What we can be sure of however, is that it's silly to claim that an inherited predisposition to homosexuality would have meant it would have "died out thousands of years ago". Why would that be the case?

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nickf

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FE , I was nearly expanding on the original coment , "I just think it is entirely inappropriate that our young people from an early age appear to be having the message thrust on them that this is an entirely open acceptable norm." And in reply to your question , with regards to overall society , no , none at all . And I disagree with your statement that homosexual behaviour is not a choice . All homosexuals I have had converstions with ( both female and male ) tend not to support this , almost all being brave enough to admit they chose the lifestyle, and were influenced by others when making this decision . I dont claim that this is a representative of all homosexuals , I can only form an opinion on information I have . I do not and would not advocate any form of unequal treatment for homosexuals , any morethan I would for any other disabled Group

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