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Posted December 17, 2012 at 8:12PM
Ok, I know I'm probably asking for trouble here but something I saw yesterday that really irritated both my wife and myself.
Sir Ian McKellen (an actor who I usually have respect for) was interviewed on the Andrew Marr show yesterday morning. I didn't see the entire interview but we were both incredulous at the part where he said he was off to Edinburgh to visit and talk to schools to promote homosexuality and affirm the ideal that it was ok to be gay. He said school children's jaws usually dropped when they heard that it was once possible to be jailed for being in love with someone of the same sex.
As a parent (albeit of offspring now old enough to make their own minds up) I would have been incensed if I thought that sort of message was being sent out to my family in our schools. It is bad enough that so many children's tv programmes portray this as a totally normal alternative.
I don't consider myself to be homophobic, I am opposed to gay marriage per se as I believe marriage should be reserved for the traditional male/female partnership but at the same time I know several gay people and don't have any issue with their relationships - what they do is entirely their own business. I respect them and they respect my opinion.
I just think it is entirely inappropriate that our young people from an early age appear to be having the message thrust on them that this is an entirely open acceptable norm.
Am I wrong?
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Posted December 21, 2012 at 12:21PM
Perhaps in defence of bing.alau and his comment, I was one of many millions who never learnt about sex from my parent's or teacher's, because at that time it was 'not the done thing'. Talk to your mates, or let's play Doctor's and Nurses were the sexual learning curve for some of us!.
Nowadays people seem far more liberal minded in the way they act and do things, and sometimes this can lead to many other problems.
In the television program I mentioned in a previous post, quite a number of teenager's were interviewed including teenage parent's and their parent. It soon became very evident that the education regarding sex, was still " Should I or Shouldn't I" and especially more so with the easy supply of the After Morning pill, being provided by some school's, with the provision that the parent will never know.
In that television program there was a number of 'experts' including an MP who wanted the laws changing or school's and other establishments being provided with adequate funding for sex education. Surprising though, how some of these experts could not agree on the way forward. One of the things that came out of that, was two young teenage girls who became pregnant, and discussed their own experiences. both stated that if they had they own way again, the pregnancies would not have happened "but it did".
Perhaps to add a final note, I once attended a series of lectures, and one of those lectures was taken by a person who admitted to being a lesbian, and had never really had a physical or sexual encounter with a male, had never given birth, but was educating mother's about childbirth. Which brings the subject of who these sex educator's are going to be, and the same I would imagine, would apply to the teachings of being gay?.
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Posted December 21, 2012 at 12:56PM
Fourm member
The second paragraph merely confirms what I have said. Those being taken to court and convicted remains constant, those previously dealt with by caution have dropped because of the use of restorative justice and warnings.
From the figures supplied it is not possible to draw the conclusion that children and youths are committing more or less crime than in 1995.
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Posted December 21, 2012 at 4:22PM
Maybe I can't come up with a decent argument abut this subject. But I did know that when I went to school we were not taught about the intricacies of sex. I can honestly say that I cannot remember any young girl in the school I attended getting pregnant. I can't remember any of us young lads being more than mildly interested until we reached the age of sixteen.
It is only since sex lessons were started in school that there has been a surge in teenage pregnancies. what worries me is that now they are not even teenagers. They are still just young children becoming mothers themselves. I never have agreed with teaching sex in schools and nothing will alter that opinion.
I knew a lot of you would be mildly shocked by my attitude. But I am really sick to death of the way sex is pedal-led everywhere you look. Maybe I am becoming a prude as I get older. But I think there would be less crime in this country if more important things were taught in school. There are too many do-gooders jumping on the sex bandwagon.
Sorry of you don't agree, or if I am offending anybody, but that is how I feel about it.
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Posted December 21, 2012 at 4:23PM
P.S. I knew I should never have bothered reading this thread in the first place.
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Posted December 21, 2012 at 5:02PM
In no disrespect to Bing.alau, in older times it wasn't that teenage pregnancies didn't happen, they were dealt with shame and hidden away. That's my point about education being important. Leave it in the shadows, and it isn't good things that hide in the shadows.
just because you don't know it's going on, doesn't mean it isn't happening. You only need to look at the Jimmy Savile situation to know where it leads.
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Posted December 21, 2012 at 7:05PM
I remember going to London as a young child with my parents & being surprised to see men dressed as women walking along the street.I asked my mother why & was pretty much ignored,my fathers response was simply "they're puffs" with nothing further to explain.As a teenager,being gay wasn't a choice I'd make as they were bullied relentlessly.The various snide comments from heterosexuals whenever they encountered gay men (backs to the wall etc) I found distasteful but did not say or do anything to reveal my distaste.I know I'm heterosexual and still feel uncomfortable in gay company so try and avoid contact with anyone openly gay.I know of women who were married,had children,got divorced and started a relationship with another woman,I also know of men who also were married,had children,divorce & start a relationship with another man.I hold no opinion on whether these same sex relationships are right or wrong,they are private & for the individuals to decide on the morals.I am astounded at some of the responses in this thread though.All because a gay man is trying to reduce the prejudice in society towards gay relationships by explaining to children that same sex relationships exist.
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Posted December 21, 2012 at 7:50PM
The problem is that people that are very liberal and "tolerant" tend to be very intolerant toward people that don't have the same opinion as them in this issue.
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Posted December 21, 2012 at 8:10PM
flycatcher1
Never suspected Bingalau was from Down Under,( or are we being just a little bit pretentious? ).
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Posted December 21, 2012 at 8:17PM
Oh spider9 - very droll but mon francais ain't what it used to be .
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