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police commissioner elections


passing through

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Do you think it is a good idea to have a commissioner of police instead of the old police authority. If the correct person is voted in, will they have the teeth and inclination to force chief constables to there way of thinking.

Or will you not be voting.

With a bit of luck our local candidate will sail in. http://www.thisishullandeastriding.co.uk/Lord-Prescott-odds-favourite-PCC-role/story-17222944-detail/story.html

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spuds

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"I am not sure that I want a retired copper who may have an axe to grind or have pre-conceived ideas".

Personally I wouldn't think that there was much chance of that happening, because of the original 'heavy' financial burden of becoming a candidate. Especially if they attempted to 'go it alone'.

In the comments I made earlier, two individual's applied as 'Independents', because they wanted to keep the political party's 'out of it', but they found that their efforts have been reduced quite a lot, because it was all very new territory for them.

The remaining Independent candidate is very well known in the Asian and ethnic communities, and it would be very interesting to see if that increases any votes in their favour. If that person wins on commitment to serving all the public, which I see no reason why not, then I would be all for him. But I also wonder how long it will take, in doing the job he as indicated he wants to do, before obstructions or objections perhaps becomes evident?.

Of the other two 'political' candidates, one is an 'Assistant Deputy Mayor', with what I would regard as having little or no experience of running a police force, or anything else of this size without guidance. Yet the political party as made the decision to select this person, as the best candidate?.

The other political candidate appears to have great credentials, being an ex Air Chief Marshall and Commander-in-Chief in the RAF. When his name first appeared, it was clearly stated that he was not going to be governed by the political party, but more by the public. Interesting really, because since that original statement, things have gone very quiet on that intentions?.

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QuizMan

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I've got Boris Johnson whether I want him or not.

From the MyPCC website - "There are no elections for police and crime commissioners taking place in the area you have specified. The London Mayor is the police and crime commissioner for London. The Mayoral elections that were held earlier this year determined the police and crime commissioner for the London area."

That last bit passed me by when casting my vote this year.

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Woolwell

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spuds - We have a retired copper standing in my area.

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Bing.alau

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I've just filled in my voting paper. I didn't know any of them, so I voted No one for the only independent candidate on the form and No two for the only female name on the list.

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bremner

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Bing.alau

Your last sums up all that needs to be said about these ridiculous elections.

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Bing.alau

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I agree.

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johndrew

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We have had one flyer advertising an applicant for this post in our area; the remainder don't appear to think we exist or matter!

Unfortunately the one who advertised himself is an ex-councillor on a big pension who seems to believe he has the power to change the law with no reference to Parliament :-((

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wiz-king

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We have a good choice down here in Surrey

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Pine Man

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I know that the annual salary for the PCC will be about £85k but has anybody yet suggested what the additional costs will be?

He or she will not be able to do the job single handed so will inevitably have a substantial administrative and research staff. That staff and he or she will need offices, which will have to be furnished and need telecommunications and IT installing.

What's the best guess for the annual overall costs of this new political brainwave? Maybe about £250k ish? Multiply that by the 43 UK police forces and you are looking at around £10/11 million per annum.

Scary isn't it and given that all forces have extremely limited resources does any body really expect these PCCs to make any real difference?

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Woolwell

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Pine Man - you haven't taken into account the existing Police Authority which is being replaced by the PCC. For instance my Police Authority has about 20 staff. The new PCC's should be taking over these offices and staff and perhaps insisting on a reduction in staff.

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