Hang on a minute F.E, how am I supposed to read a posting that you have posted in Tech Consumer Advice when it should be in speakers corner, it's not me that posted wrong.

Unless you think that the rules have changed,

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Sorry again, bit uptight this morning just had some bad news.

Seems Apple aren't quite having every thing their own way, enter link description here and it seems that Apple's bounce-back patent may not be valid enter link description here enter link description here and that famous we have invented a new design ( oblong with rounded corners) may not be too true enter link description here granted it's slightly bigger than an iPhone but it is the same shape.