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Is the site getting better ot worse


mole1944

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Just lately i find this site splutters and jumps all over the place,i'm on ie9,is it me my machine or the site.Even replying to a post is now getting to be more trouble than it's worth. Sorry to moan but things do seem to getting worse,i've noticed some of the quieries seem very old and are on the top of the pile in each section.

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mole1944

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Thanks for all your comments,i had the computer checked by my son he's IT manager for performance and procurement for a worldwide motor manufacturer,and if anyone knows about computers he does and he say my machine is fine.it's (Don't laugh) an Advent DT2304 with 8Gb ram and running at 2.7GHz and only a month old.

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Condom

"Since I moved out east it is taking me an average of 4-5 minutes just to change a page."

Do me a personal favour will you? Click away from the forum and look at other pages on the site - let me know what happens as far as page loading is concerned.

A delay of 4-5 minutes to load a page is unheard of as far as we're concerned - it has certainly never happened in the entire time I've been involved with the site. We have quite a few users in Thailand - as I write this 18 of them are actively using the site - and we haven't received any similar complaints. That's why I'm asking you to try other pages, to see if it's specifically a problem with the forum for you.

As for defending things to the hilt, of course I'll do that if there's a defence to be made - I imagine you would do exactly the same thing if you were in my position. Nothing for me to be ashamed of about that. If there's something wrong we want to put it right, but we need to know exactly what is wrong first. The problem is that no two people have precisely the same story to tell, it makes it difficult. I'm using the site at home at the moment, on an ordinary laptop, using Google Chrome via a wireless network and a BT Infinity connection. Forum pages are loading almost instantly for me. I just tried using Firefox, and it's exactly the same.

Using IE9 things are noticeably slower. both on our site and on several others I tried. Nevertheless I can load a BBC news page in around 3 seconds.

The only difference between you and I is that I'm in London and you're in Thailand, and we're using different ISPs. I've tried clicking around a few Thai sites in Chrome and IE9. In Chrome all pages load in milliseconds, in IE9 the loading time is slower, but still pretty fast.

We're not giving up on this, but it's far from easy - only a very few people seem to be having a problem, and that makes it more difficult for us to fathom. It might seem as if it's a common complaint, but actually it tends to be the same people each time the subject crops up.

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wee eddie

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I have just turned off the Ad-Blocker.

The current background Ad is fairly simple by comparison to some that I have seen in the past.

Normal loading time (Blocker turned on) - 3-5 seconds per page.

Blocker turned off, so including the current AD - 26 seconds.

In the past, many of the more complex Ads have pushed my page loading time to well over the minute.

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onthelimit1

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At FE's suggestion am trying Chrome. Much faster than IE9.

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morddwyd

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"A delay of 4-5 minutes to load a page is unheard of as far as we're concerned"

Not happening with me at the implement, just the slow initial log on and when posting, but was certainly a regular occurrence in the recent past.

I would get page time-outs after several minutes sometimes lasting for hours.

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woodchip

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No matter what I use, I have nearly always had problems with Java Script turned on with the site. I have used Netscape Flock and now FF 16.0.2 and still have the problem. Do not know if this can be addressed on the Site Settings for Java. It just hangs on it in Flock I get the Script error and asks do I want to stop it, Yes and it then is ok till next time

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Condom

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FE

Thanks for your response. The time here is now 18.30'sh so hopefully it is still a quiet time in the UK.

I have done as you ask and gone beyond the forum. BBC loads in seconds most of the time except for the odd news page or two. Everything else I use is also working just fine.

Within the Site itself I have looked at the following pages. "Microsoft Sells 4 Million Windows 8 Upgrades" which took 8 seconds to load. However within that story clicking on "Price in the UK" took 2.5 minutes to load.

I then went to "Was Apple Sweeping Its bad News Away" which loaded in 2 seconds and within that story "Apple making 58% Profit from Sales Of iPhone" took 3 seconds.

I then tried "Apple delays Next iTunes Release" which took 1 second and the story within that of "Some big changes this week" took 2 seconds.

All the above was to me impressive apart from the one page as I would class 1 or 2 seconds as instant.

I then went back to Speakers Corner which took 1 minute 45 seconds to load. During this time the page freezes and the only way out is using the back arrow. I then went to "Is this site getting better or worse" which took a further 2 minutes to load. Page 2 also took a further 2 minutes whilst page 3 took 10 seconds.

If you look at my posting of 5 days ago "Please tell them to leave it alone now" you will see that the site worked just fine for me but only for a few hours. I therefore suspect that the fault does not lie within my laptop but I'm sure stranger things have happened so I seldom discount anything.

When pages are loading I can see page references flying by at the foot of the screen but when I get delays it always seems to be on "waiting for idg.grapeshot although the url might be longer than that but that is all I can see of it.

Anyway I hope some of this makes sense to you and might suggest some ways forward. I'm off out now to play in a pool league match where I suspect we are going to get a drubbing so I can only hope that the football which follows on behind is as good as last Saturday.

I am using IE 9 and the latest FF and there is not much between them. I use Avast and Do Not Track and everything on my laptop is up to date according to Secunia.

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Condom

Thanks for all that - most helpful. Good luck with the pool.

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Fruit Bat /\0/\

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IE8 is bad as well

no problems using FF

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Phil Ocifer

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Bing.alau

The pile isn't going down very fast because not many people are using the forums, IMO because they are slow, clunky, problematic and full of adverts.

I think we'll be going round in circles here if we're not careful.

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