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Scotland's Vote Independence or Union?


Bing.alau
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We have plenty of Scots who take part in this forum. I wonder how they intend to vote.

Will Scottish people in England, Northern Ireland or Wales etc., have a vote and if so how do you intend to vote? Will it depend on the address at the time of voting? As I have said before I have lots of Scottish friends but they all live on the south coast of England. (They show a tendency to get away from Scotland as far as possible).

Macscouse had better keep out of this or the LHO will hit him below the sporran.

Seriously though. Will English people living in Scotland on a permanent basis be entitled to vote?

What about all the Scottish people living abroad in such diverse places as Canada and South Africa?

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morddwyd

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"I think that if Scotland does gain independence then they may well be in the same situation as Ireland."

I think many people would be happy with that (note to fm - I didn't say all, or even most!).

"Personally I think that the powers that be might have made a bad mistake with that arrangement"

I left my native Wales in 1953, and paid my last visit in the 70s. I first came to Scotland in 1957.

Are you seriously suggesting that I should have a vote in any independence referendum in a country I haven't seen in 40 years, but not in a country where I have lived and worked for 60?

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Jock1e

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The way I see it is if you were born in Scotland you should be entitled to vote.

It does not matter where you are in the world if you were born in Scotland you are Scottish.

Now whether you would want to vote is a different thing but maybe you should have that choice.

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kad60

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Possibly the only means of surviving an independence vote would be for the Scots to go fully into Europe,if the Euro survives itself,lock,stock and ........ .I'll leave you fill in the blank.

Would Salmond be any better pleased being 'ruled' from Brussels rather than Westminster,"independence"/"sovereignty" are dirty words in the Euro zone unless your country begins with an F or G.

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WhiteTruckMan

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The thought occurs to me that I wonder if the 'asylum seekers' that turn up on our shores all too often will keep on going north, and what salmond will do about them?

WTM

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spider9

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Jock1e "The way I see it is if you were born in Scotland you should be entitled to vote."

Have you any idea of the complexity of what you are suggesting? Proving your Scottish birth and registering to vote in an election in a Scotland you maybe haven't seen in 70 or 80 years?? Get real!

WTM "asylum seekers"

Why on earth would they WANT to come if things are going to be so bad up here when England are no longer supplying all the cash to the Scots?

But always good politics to throw up scare stories at any opportunity!

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Miké

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How much of the current UK National Debt will they to take on? Presumably the new state of Scotland wouldn't be able to pay this off in a single payment, still never mind there's always the oil revenue to sequester until their share is paid!

Oh yes nearly forgot about the WW1 and WW2 debts to the USA, still in a generation or two they should be nearly out of debt.

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spider9

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Mike "Oh yes nearly forgot about the WW1 and WW2 debts to the USA, still in a generation or two they should be nearly out of debt"

Did you also forget the 'final' payments made in about 2006 to clear the same?

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Bing.alau

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Can anyone get a bet on with William Hill or any other bookies on the outcome of the vote? I don't suppose the bookies will be taking bets until they find out what the make up of the question actually is.

If it is a straight Yes or No question, then I've got a feeling in my water that most Scots will vote No.

Whatever happens I am sure we will all remain firm friends, won't we?

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Forum Editor

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I think fourm member hit the nail on the head when he said "We know it is all about what people believe not what is true. People believe that Scotland depends on the rest of the UK to finance its spending and anyone trying to present figures to disprove that will just be accused of trying to spin."

The sort of statistic that influences the 'we all finance Scotland' cohort is this:

In may 2011 the proportion of people of working age claiming benefit in Scotland was approximately 14.7%

In the same month the figure for England was 3.7%

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Woolwell

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Whatever happens I hope that after the referendum that the Barnett Formula is ended (or replaced) and that the West Lothian question would be resolved with no Scottish MP's (or Welsh or NI) able to vote on English matters.

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