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Scotland's Vote Independence or Union?


Bing.alau
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We have plenty of Scots who take part in this forum. I wonder how they intend to vote.

Will Scottish people in England, Northern Ireland or Wales etc., have a vote and if so how do you intend to vote? Will it depend on the address at the time of voting? As I have said before I have lots of Scottish friends but they all live on the south coast of England. (They show a tendency to get away from Scotland as far as possible).

Macscouse had better keep out of this or the LHO will hit him below the sporran.

Seriously though. Will English people living in Scotland on a permanent basis be entitled to vote?

What about all the Scottish people living abroad in such diverse places as Canada and South Africa?

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Picklefactory

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My ex is Scottish... if they vote for independence, can I have her deported?

Seriously, apart from possibly north sea fuels, or what's left of them, I don't really understand how they will be better off. I wonder how much of the Scots are still concerned about independence on patriotic grounds, quite a few I'd guess, but I'd be surprised if there was a majority? I would imagine many would believe their interests would be better served by an indigenous government, and maybe they would at that?

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OTT_B

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The result of the vote, as with any referendum, will depend on the question that is asked. If the referendum (which is said to be based on a single yes / no question) asks 'do you want England to have any administrative control over Scotland?', it will get a very different result to asking 'Do you want England to continue to exchequer payments to Scotland, in exchange for some administrative control?' The one question that can't - and won't - be asked is 'Do you want Scotland to be an independent nation?'

In one form or another, I can see Scotland's current parliament being given more autonomy, but then even without a referendum, that is happening anyway.

This seems more about Salmond promoting himself than a true and practical desire of the Scottish people, for an independent Scotland.

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oresome

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Never mind how the Scots vote, the decision one way or another impacts on the English, yet we have no say.

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canarieslover

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I'm with oresomeon this issue. As affected parties surely the rest of the U.K. should have a say in this, or would that put the devolution beyond doubt???

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Aitchbee

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The older ones are probably quite happy the way things are running just now.But the introduction of 16yr and 17yr's old might just swing it.

So that means that the 14 year olds [of today] could swing it in 2 years time?

Salmond must be relying/betting on this newly 'mustered/negotiated' teen vote to bolster the AYE votes.

I'll be voting YES. [for independence].

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spider9

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AITCHBEE

16 and 17 year olds will only make up a very small percentage of the voters (even if they can all be persuaded to vote!), so that 'red herring' is unlikely to make any real difference to the outcome.

Jock1e "I can see why David Cameron is pushing for it."

I thought it was the SNP who wanted the 16/17's given the franchise, not the PM??

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N47.

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On a bit of a tangent. There was an interesting comment in today's i newspaper by Oliver Wright.

Under plans for a new post-independence Scottish public service broadcaster. Scotland could hive off the £325M BBC licence fee but the BBC would then have no choice but to turn off the signal for Scotland. It would probably then be on a pay per view basis. TV catchup and iplayer would not work as Scotland would be outside of the UK.

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Bing.alau

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I'm sure that neither the Scots nor the BBC would behave like that.

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john bunyan

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Quite apart from the economic issues, the military ones are interesting. Will Faslane/ Coulport be available, or will they become "Sovereign bases" as did Akrotiri and Dekelia in Cyprus? Will Scotland have its own Army, Navy and Air Force? The questions on the military issues alone seem endless..Presumably if they vote "Yes" they would be for a while, outside the EU, and the tariff barrier issue arises.

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WhiteTruckMan

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Turkeys voting for christmas. Salmond et al dont seem to be capable of realistically looking at the long term implications of independance. However, should it go their way (as it probably will do, given the amount of time and effort they are putting into rigging it their way) then the first few weeks/months after independance will be a grand and glorious time indeed.

The scottish nationalists are chasing independance like a dog chases passing cars; neither have any idea what they would do were they to achieve their hearts desire.

On another note, Ed Milliblands recent 'one nation' conference speech is becoming a lot clearer. He cannot realistically do more than pay lip service to this idea else it would mean the loss of a significant number of westminster labour MP's at a stroke.

WTM

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