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Are we really getting rid of that detestable man "Abbu" ?at last?


Bing.alau
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Just saw on the news that the police have driven that one armed, one eyed cleric away somewhere. Let'e hope it is to the airport.

I hope there's not any chance of us having him or the other four who are supposed to be extradited with him, back here to darken our shores again.

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bluesbrother

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Woolwell, totally disagree with you.

The last part of the sentence is very offensive.

The first part is just sheer stupidity.

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rdave13

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bluesbrother , I think FM was referring to WW2, past history of Nazi atrocities, without seeming to be bringing it up to full glory again. Our British history in warfare isn't gleaming either and was offensive. Earlier in history we were even more offensive when it came to the slave trade.

History as is.

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Flak999

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rdave13

"Earlier in history we were even more offensive when it came to the slave trade"

Than the Nazis??? I don't think so!

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bluesbrother

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rdave13

I agree, British governments, past and present, are far from innocent.

I strongly believe everyone is entitled to their own beliefs, religious or political. But when anyone advocates injuring or killing to further their beliefs I do not want them living in the same continent as me never mind the same country.

That is what this is about and that is what WW2 was about.

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rdave13

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Flak999 Read about our history of slave trading.

bluesbrother and I agree fully and so does fourm member but has a way with words that excites responses. Read his post again and see the meaning of it. Especially with the topics of speakers corner at the moment.

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bluesbrother

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fourm members "way with words" seems to consist of throwing a few contentious remarks into the pot without regard of the consequences.

I've bit my tongue a few times in the past, but that one was way out of line.

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interzone55

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Being the same devils advocate as FM

The EDL attack people for their beliefs in the same way as Abu Hamza's followers. Should we throw them out as well?

If you recall, the largest terrorist atrocity on US soil prior to 9/11 was carried out by Timothy McVeigh, a US born & bred "patriot".

It's not just foreigners who cause problems for governments and as much time & effort should be spent making sure the fascist movements are kept in line.

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LanceAlot

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One would assume, rightlyfully or wrongly, that a suspected lowlife terrorist's family would fully support his extremist beliefs and could potentially become a threat to our country's security at some point. Yes, kick them out too, and this has nothing to do with religion but all to do with self preservation.

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sunnystaines

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the Uk needs a good clear out of foriegn terroists seeking haven here and all those radical immigrants stiring up trouble here.

have the courts woke up at last.

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Forum Editor

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Whilst being in total agreement with the principle of adhering to proper legal processes in matters of this kind I cannot understand why it should take so long. Spending many millions of public money over many years because someone keeps finding new legal obstacles for us to overcome seems to point to a need to overhaul the laws relating to the extradition process.

If we want to expel an individual from our country we should be able to do it fairly rapidly. What stops us in many instances is our desire to ensure that the person concerned is not in danger of being killed when he or she reaches the country that asks for extradition. It's a thorny ethical situation, and it's one to which I have no answer. As a nation we believe fervently in the rule of law, and unfortunately that's something which will occasionally mean we have these problems to face.

Comments about pushing people out of planes, and deporting whole families because one person is undesirable are not helpful, so please let's have no more of it.

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