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Two-faced hypoctites!

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Pine Man
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Posted July 27, 2012 at 11:16AM

I'm not much into football but it made my blood boil to see the 'non-English' GB football team members who are more than happy to play for the team but refuse to sing the national anthem!

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Wuggy

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Posted July 27, 2012 at 1:35PM

Why do all these posters seem to think it is compulsory to sing the national anthem. For goodness sake we're not in North Korea, yet. If some players wish to sing that's fine. If others just want to stand to attention, or as close to it as some can manage, that, too, is perfectly acceptable.

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Condom

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Posted July 27, 2012 at 1:39PM

  1. O Lord our God arise, Scatter her enemies And make them fall; Confound their politics, Frustrate their knavish tricks, On Thee our hopes we fix, God save us all!

The above are the words of the third verse of the National Anthem and were written about the Scots.

Do you really expect Scottish people to sing a song about the English wish to crush us.

I know it was a long time ago but the Anthem was not written as a UK National Anthem but an English one.

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KRONOS the First

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Posted July 27, 2012 at 1:46PM

OK if you want to be pedantic,not like you at all, it has been adopted as Scotland's de facto national anthem whether you like it or not.

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Wuggy

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Posted July 27, 2012 at 1:50PM

The original version penned about 1744/45 (when Prince Charles Edward Stuart invaded England as far as Derby before his clansmen decided to return home) contained an additional verse which, for obvious reasons has been allowed to disappear.

Lord, grant that Marshal Wade,

May by thy mighty aid,

Victory bring.

May he sedition hush,

and like a torrent rush,

Rebellious Scots to crush,

God save the King.

So originally it would appear to have been more of an English National Anthem.

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KRONOS the First

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Posted July 27, 2012 at 2:19PM

I was making the point that English people can't say 'Scotland's got a national anthem, why hasn't England?'

Of course they can say that, this is the real world, as far as most English are concerned the Scots have their own Nation anthem. Just because it is not official has very little bearing on the English peoples understanding.

And as for wondering why the Scottish government has not made it official I cannot say it has ever crossed my mind.I gave up trying to understand politicians thought processes many years ago.

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Nontek

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Posted July 27, 2012 at 3:42PM

gave up trying to understand politicians thought processes many years ago.

I am not ruling out any possible exceptions, but, generally speaking those 'thought processes' can be summed up by adding 'Self' at the start and end of any such processes!

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Bing.alau

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Posted July 27, 2012 at 4:04PM

Quite a few of the players last night were not singing along. That included some of the English players. If I had been in their shoes I wouldn't sing along to it either. It's a diabolical song, singing the praises of one person and nothing to do with the nation. The tune's o.k and I believe it was once the national anthem of America too. But to me the word "national" means of the nation and it could do with a re-write.

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Quickbeam

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Posted July 27, 2012 at 4:48PM

"It's a diabolical song" 'tis that too. "...and it could do with a re-write" no chance of that 'til we become The Republic Of Great Britain...

And as much as I hate to say so, the French have the worlds most rousing and inspiring national anthem that makes them want to sing it.

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Quickbeam

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Posted July 27, 2012 at 4:51PM

...just look at the French spectators enthusiasm at a 6 Nations or international football game.

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buteman

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Posted July 27, 2012 at 5:47PM

Just a thought if it is a Uk team who picks the manager.

Should it have been and Irish. Scottish or welsh manager instead,

Not only picks the Manager who picks the team.

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