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A letter everyone should read.


Al94

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Received this by email - sums up UK today really -

Subject: Fw: A LETTER THAT EVERYONE SHOULD READ

To David Cameron (Prime Minister) & Ed Milliband (Leader of the Opposition)

You BOTH worry me! (In fact both of your Political parties worry me!!!)

Over the last three years, I find myself becoming more and more fearful of the pair of you, and between you, you are turning this country into a place that I no longer feel at home in, or feel a part of! I watch you in parliament, and no, not just the two of you, but every politician that I see, stand up in parliament sneering at each other, and acting like children (and if you were my children, I would be ashamed of you all). What an example to set!

Although you would like us all to believe that you are putting the needs of this country at the forefront, NEITHER of you are doing that, you seem more interested in "one-upmanship ", in scoring off each other, & denigrating each other, to the detriment of this country & its people!!! It seems to be all about YOU as individuals, and not about what you can DO for this country! It is fast becoming a place that I do not recognize, as the place I always thought, was the best place in the world to be!!!

But no longer!!! You are not listening to the people of this country!!! And here in Great Britain, your counterparts are afflicted with the same disease - is it endemic in all politicians?

I am watching the deterioration of living standards in this country, (and according to you, on a world stage we are doing better than most countries ... REALLY???)... And yet the gap is widening between the "haves" and the "have-nots”. I see our homeless on the streets, our hospitals under-funded and understaffed, our health system is an absolute mess and a disgrace ... And yet I see multi-millions of dollars being sent off shore, in aid to other countries, before attending to this country's needs!

I see the "selling off of water rights to foreign interests, WHY...? Especially when you go to great lengths to tell us that water is a finite resource, & supposedly, we must ALL be careful with how we use it, so that we ensure we have it for the future?

A Carbon Tax,( which you KNOW is just another tax ) which will make NO appreciable difference, to carbon emissions, AT ALL!

A tax, which in spite of all your arguments FOR it, you are doing alone, when other major countries will NOT & DO NOT embrace it, or believe in it ! All that it will do for this country is put working families and small businesses behind the eight ball, what planet are you on, if you think that your few hundred pounds a year, will make even a scrap of difference to the effect of the carbon tax on people? Anyone can see the holes in that argument!!! Do you really think we are that dumb???

Let's talk about Multiculturalism - People have been coming here from other countries, for a better life, for more years than I have been alive (I am 72 years old!)...... Pre & Post war immigrants came for a better life, and settled in and became wonderful contributors to this country, all have contributed to the rich diversity of this country, and some descendants have even fought FOR this country, and they have become U.K. citizens and were glad to be and they had NO handouts from our Government either, ...they worked hard for everything!

I have never before had a problem with all, or any, race of immigrants coming here... However, I DO NOW!!!

Please tell me why we have areas in towns and on large estates all over the country, where police do NOT, & will NOT go, for fear of their life? Please tell me why we can no longer have religion in schools, for fear of "OFFENDING" someone? (The latest little gem is that they are not having, or being funded, for "chaplains” any more, but "Counsellors "?) Please tell me why religious Christmas observances are no longer allowed in some schools for fear of OFFENDING someone? Please tell me HOW Christmas decorations in some stores might OFFEND someone? Please tell me why we have to have segregated days in some swimming centres, for fear of "OFFENDING" someone? Please tell me why we have some RADICAL clerics demanding Sharia Law in this country ... when if we were in THEIR country, this would NEVER be allowed? Please tell me why our laws need to be changed, so as not to OFFEND someone? Please tell me why we are fast becoming a MINORITY voice, in our own country, because of POLITICAL CORRECTNESS? Please tell me WHY Britains cannot legally wear a face covering bike helmet into a bank and yet it is OK to wear a Burqa which covers the whole face? And please tell me WHY, when those people who want asylum here, can wreck our detention centres, and STILL be accepted here?

What does that say, about just who and what are this government's priorities?

The British people that I speak to have genuine concerns about becoming a second class minority in our own country, and the reasons for it, are some of the above. Are you so blind that you cannot see this?

And no, I am NOT racist! (if I did not like Catholics or Protestants would I be considered racist ?) Of course not!

Why is it that if we object to what is happening in our country ... we are immediately labelled RACIST, in an attempt to shut us up?

We are fighting Radical Muslims, in Afghanistan & Iraq, are we not? I hear you say, yes but the Muslims we have here are "Not like that” Well how would we know? ...do we hear ANY of them coming out & speaking AGAINST radicals?? I haven't - have you???

Islam is not compatible with ANY of the values that we hold here in Britain! .....Are not the experiences of France and the Netherlands an example of that? Why do you think it would be any different here? We even have a British born "radical ", whose message is that Britain WILL become a Muslim country, under Sharia Law, & that we had "better get used to it ".

Will both of you start sticking up for this country and its people???

We are the people who put you where you are, and PAY you to look after our interests! ... And you are NOT doing that, by any stretch of the imagination!!!

I would appreciate an answer, from both of you, if only to convince me that once again, I am not talking to a brick wall!!!!!

In case it has escaped both of you ...I would like to remind you that, in the U.K. Government ... is FOR THE PEOPLE, OF THE PEOPLE, & BY THE PEOPLE. Never forget that......because you sure have up till now!!! Let us get this out to all – please keep forwarding and if you have people in the press or if you know Politicians – let them know we are dis-satisfied with their behaviour!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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daz60

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Apathy is the brother of discontent

Peoples attitudes towards the voting process have changed considerably over the years,my parents would never miss a voting opportunity as for myself i have only voted three times in expectation of genuine change.Years ago actual change could be measured,the NHS,Pensions,workers rights and more liberty and real responsibility.

Now all of those things won 'for the people and by the people' are in retreat,now it is PR and sound-bites,cosmetics masquerading as policy.

People are now able to see through the "smoke and mirrors" and caste a baleful eye on the shenanigans perpetrated in their name and at their expense.

That apathy and discontent is a direct result of authority losing its trust and indeed its principle in protecting the status quo or should i say their status quo.

As someone once said "if voting changed anything they would ban it".

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Forum Editor

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Snec

"The system as it stands does not work and never will for as long as voters continue to vote for provern liars who treat the public as fools. We truly do get what we deserve."

Voters elect the people who offer themselves as candidates. Those candidates are members of our society, produced by us. Some of them may turn out to be proven liars, so are many of us. As you have admitted, we do truly get exactly what we deserve. It's our fault if our politicians aren't up to standard - they are the children that their parents produced, with the values they acquired from them. They come from us, and we must live with it or change it.

Endlessly complaining about how our politicians leave a lot to be desired achieves nothing. If we want a different kind of parliamentary representation we must do something about it.

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Snec

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FE

Endlessly complaining about how our politicians leave a lot to be desired achieves nothing. If we want a different kind of parliamentary representation we must do something about it.

Yes, I agree, but what can we do?

I wouldn't normally mention this (and I'll keep it as short as I can) .

I was manufacturing director for a group of companies who took over an under-performing outfit and it fell to me to get it up to standard. At my first monthly meeting the local production director assured me that next month all targets would be met plus a catch-up to the deficit. We had two further similar meetings. The third one was on a Wednesday. The following Friday at 3pm he was given 12 months salary, free of all stoppages, and escorted to his car.

This is the difference: after they are elected politicians may break promises, get things wrong, keep getting things wrong and are allowed to continue in the job. It is as if they are saying “stuff the boss (that’s us, the voters) if my performance is sub-par, there is nothing he can do about it.”

So, yes, I’m all for getting the system changed but what can I do? As I said voting every 4 or 5 years does not provide the solution: we are only offered the same people or the same sort of people. There is a reason for them wanting to be politicians and you know as well as I what that is.

It is the system that needs voting out but that won’t happen in our lifetime, we can’t even vote on staying in or out of Europe.

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LastChip

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Quite right Snec.

You've summed up beautifully exactly what's wrong with the current system and it's designed in such a way that it's almost impossible to change.

Try standing as an Independent at the next election and see how far you get. You'll be lucky to keep your deposit! You'd be fighting a well oiled media machine that would leave you trampled under tons of earth, no matter how honest and good your intentions were.

Only someone like Martin Bell could get away with it, due to their (already) high media profile.

It's all very well to say vote for change, but who will change it?

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Aitchbee

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Scotland is on the verge of a potential momentous change in 2 years' time...The People will have their say.

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Snec

**"I’m all for getting the system changed but what can I do? As I said voting every 4 or 5 years does not provide the solution: we are only offered the same people or the same sort of people. There is a reason for them wanting to be politicians and you know as well as I what that is. It is the system that needs voting out but that won’t happen in our lifetime, we can’t even vote on staying in or out of Europe."**

Let's look at it another way. How did the system get to where it is now? The answer, of course, is that we voted for it, or at least enough of us did to change it from what we had before.

We can talk all around this for ever, but we'll always return to the central point, which is that if we as a society want to be governed in a different way we can bring it about - we need to raise our children with a decent set of moral standards, and the common-sense attitudes that ensure a well-ordered society, and then wait for them to present themselves as parliamentary candidates.

It's simple, isn't it? We created the society in which we live, and we can create a different/better one if we have enough get up and go, and that means getting off our backsides and doing something, rather than sitting back and complaining. It would be a long haul, but if a thing is worth doing.....

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spuds

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FE

What do you propose the people do other than stating what you said at 12.56pm. It's a bit like saying lessons will be learned, but seemingly never are.

LastChip made a remark at 12.41pm about the voting system and possibly being an Independent. My own local two major council's (if they are examples to go by) are in a state of total confusion regarding who wants to hold the power. Councillor's have moved allegiance from one party to another, outvoted each other, and even tried to go Independent, but have failed through lack of support or finance. We have had, and are still having major and rather expensive inquiries on how councillor's are conducting themselves. This is usually due to in-house fighting, and who thinks that they are the most important.

I seem to recall when Jenkins and a number of other political high flyers formed a 'new party' that was going to be a party for the people. Whatever happened to that?.

I would add that my father was made an Alderman through his political activities within the Conservative party, but I hold no allegiance whatsoever to any party, because I sincerely believe that those who hold political power, hold it for themselves and nothing more, my late father included.

It is well recorded the 'battles' I have had with the local council and councillor's over various issues,and other people have shown agreement with me, but have I made any difference. No I haven't, because the barriers are far to high for the common being, especially when you are dealing with entrenched politicians and their respective parties?.

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spuds

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fourm member

"Hows that working for..."

They might not be in 'the job' any more, but they sure ain't going hungry via their books, after dinner speeches, and perhaps outside political roles.

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Snec

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Thanks, LastChip.

FM

I think you missed where I said we are only offered the same people or the same sort of people.

FE

Most of what you say I agree with except "it's simple..." I don't think it is but I'm afraid even if it can be done the 'haul' is likely to be longer than my time remaining on this mortal coil.

Just thought of something you talking about getting of our backsides. I have a place down in Carbis Bay, five bedrooms, lots of space. If you want to organise a meeting with a view to getting things changed the place is yours after September on one proviso: count me in.

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Snec

I have a weakness for Cornwall, and your offer is tempting, but..

I'll cut off an arm before I involve myself in politics. My father was a parliamentary candidate when I was young, and I learnt enough about the life to put me off for ever.

Thanks, all the same.

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