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Can I suggest that PCA. start a Social Network forum so that posters can discuss their personal, social and medical problems and those who have no interest can ignore that forum.

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Joseph Kerr

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I love a bit of spleen venting of an afternoon.

Hang, on sorry,. I think that may have been an irrelevant and "inane" post.

But how stuffy and stuck up do we want this forum to be? Very would seem to be the answer.

And you're right Mr Overload, I'm not blameless, and the FE is not the only person who offends folk, but he is the boss, which makes it worse.

None of this will matter, and he does not have it in him to apologise, no. But then should he? He has almost certainly spoken to mordwydd, and he probably feels we were all just hot and bothered and took advantage of mordwyd's dissatisfaction.

But then I have not found contact with the FE any better via email than via the forum.

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Pine Man

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Most of the 'shouting' in this thread is being done by the minority - as usual. The 'silent' majority, IMHO, are more than happy with the status quo. (not the rock band!)

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buteman

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Pine Man

You would probably walk by on the other side if someone needed help.

So I would not class others as the same.

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Condom

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Pineman

Sorry I cannot agree with you there as there have been many stalwarts of this site voicing their opinion and after all that is what this site is for. To be perfectly honest I see little difference between what we have already and these calls for a specific Social Forum as I think that is basically what this forum has become.

Perhaps the FE is seeking to change things and if so then he should perhaps tell us what his wishes are and then people can choose to do what they may wish thereafter. I've already accused the FE of becoming tetchy in recent weeks and basically all he did was point out a spelling error in my post. I know it is his site but like many others I do think he is not living up to his own requested standards as he has recently been rude to several people and criticism seems to result in the red padlock. I actually asked him if someone else was looking after the site while he was away somewhere as in recent weeks it has not "been him".

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Joseph Kerr

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"To be perfectly honest I see little difference between what we have already and these calls for a specific Social Forum as I think that is basically what this forum has become."

Agreed.

But no, it is not his site, it is PCA's site, and indeed, th epublishing company'sd site. These facts carry certain implications.

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ed-0

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AitchBEE

**ed-0 - you said:- The threads and postings that have been removed if any kind of decent is shown. They are removed and therefore do not exist like shopgirl's posting. It was not Shopgirl but Covergirl**

Thank you for pointing out my mistake, unfortunately I could not refer to the thread as it was totally removed by FE. I got both girls mixed up :-)

Apologies to Shopgirl and Covergirl for the mix up.

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Aitchbee

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ed-0 - it was just to keep the records straight, thanks.

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Forum Editor

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Sometimes, when I read some of the comments in threads like this I understand why some newspapers publish stories that bear little resemblance to the facts.

One person's sweeping allegation that "Now chit chat between members is construed as meaningless drivel from the hierarchy." Actually turns out to refer to my comment that "there are some things that seem to me to be pointless as far as discussion topics go, and this is one of them."

So, 'pointless' becomes 'meaningless drivel' in someone's imagination, and when asked to point out where 'the heirarchy' had mentioned said drivel he/she still didn't get the point, and referred me to my original statement.

A reference is made to someone being 'dumped' by me, yet I haven't dumped anyone. What actually happened was that I locked a thread, and the person concerned decided to tell everyone that he was leaving the forum because of it. He didn't think to contact me about it, he started another thread. He decided to leave, I didn't ask him to, and having said he wouldn't be posting again he promptly did so. I allowed that thread to run, as I've allowed this one to run, so everyone could vent their feelings on the matter.

The situation as far as I'm concerned is what it has been since the start. I locked a thread because I decided it wasn't appropriate for our forum. That's my job, I'm the Editor of the forum, and I make decisions about content. It's been happening for 11 years. Sometimes people disagree with what I do, but - in the main - they accept that an editor is there to edit. Anyone who has a grievance is perfectly at liberty to contact me via email and put their case, and some people do. In almost all cases we're able to come to an amicable agreement - it's rare for us to fall out.

What I will not accept, under any circumstances, is a system of 'trial by forum', especially when some people can't even get their facts right. I'll discuss a situation with the affected person at any time, but it will happen privately, via email, and not in a public forum thread. It's a personal matter, and in my experience most mature people do not need the forum cavalry to come charging over the hill to their defence, they can fight their own battles.

if you want a forum that's run by the people in it I can point you to any number of them. They are largely populated by a handful of users who spend their time spouting obscenities at anyone who has the temerity to intrude into their private club. It all descends into an anarchic mess, with little happening except separate streams of consciousness being spouted, day in and day out.

That is not going to happen in this forum as long as I have any say in its conduct. We're all capable of something much better, and although we won't always agree on what constitutes 'much better' we've proved we can do it countless times if we try. If you have a thread locked, or a post deleted I put it to you that it isn't the end of the world - this is a web forum for goodness sake. Let the earth take a spin, and carry on posting. The secret to a happy forum life (in any forum) is not to react in haste, and never to close a door that cannot subsequently be opened. 'I'm off, you won't hear from me again' has a distinct air of finality about it, and might be regretted in the cold dawn light.

Apologies for banging on, but I needed to clear the air. I'm not discussing an individual case in the forum.

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Joseph Kerr

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Has anyone asked for a section run by the members?

Nothing was going to come of whatever request anyway, partly because your are, I believe, employed to be the FE here; you are not merely volunteering.

Still, as I said above, implications.

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Forum Editor

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Joseph Kerr

"Can I suggest that PCA. start a Social Network forum"

By implication that would involve maximum input by users and minimum moderation by us. Otherwise it wouldn't be a social network forum.

People who remember 'The Lounge' of yore will know what I mean.

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