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Budget Thoughts


Bingalau
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A few years ago this forum would have a bit of a ding dong going about the latest budget. So far today Nothing. So I will put my halfpenny worth in. Is it right that us poor pensioners are punished? After all, most of us are the ones who kept this country going through the bad times and some of us even through the last war. (anticipating Brumas, I wasn't in the Boer war or the first World war).

What annoys me is that young 14 and 15 year old girls can still purposely have a child so that they can live off the state for free. Surely something could and should be done to stop this shameful practice.

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Woolwell

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Winston Churchill brought in the retired tax relief in 1925 as a recognition of the fact that most retired people had paid tax all their lives. To gain votes?

When you are retired your expenditure may be less but it almost certain that your income will be considerably less than when you were working. It is the amount left over or not left over each money that matters not whether you are spending less as a result of being retired.

I see AitchBEE that continues his ridiculous contributions.

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anskyber

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I should really have posted the following here rather than under the Scotland Bill thread, apologies all round.

"I accept that the pensioners will benefit from the increase in personal allowances but then so will all workers who pay tax. So the difference is the age related allowance will not increase in line with inflation and therefore the true value of the allowance will reduce in line with inflation.

I rather see that as being worse off. There is further irony in that we are always asked to plan ahead with our finances, those coming up to 65 may have done just that only to see the allowance vapourised in front of them.

The heralded increase in the basic state pension is no gift to the ameliorate the reduction in the value of the age related allowance even though it is trumpeted as such. The increase would have happened any way under the triple lock policy previously announced. Given the inflation rate was high last September when the percentages for increase are set the lock that the Chancellor found himself in has simply been spun to his advantage.

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Aitchbee

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Woolwell...it was just a thought.

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Condom

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I must remember and get a certain "Member" some skin cream for his very obvious sensitive skin.

Call it a Granny Tax or anything else you may care to but the simple fact that the Chancer tried to hide it in some gobbleligook phrases clearly shows to me that he knew exactly what he was doing and the reaction it would get if people cottoned on to it immediately.

His explanation this morning was pretty pathetic.

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woody

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FE "Fewer than two out of every hundred single parents are teenagers"

I suspect most of us mean "Bastards" when talking about single parents - not those that have suffered bereavement.It is an insult to widows to class them as single parent especially as they are often from an age where they did not sleep around anything like todays girls - but i guess they are all grouped together for just the point you make - the real problem of out of wedlock kids can be hidden. Did i not read recently that 50 percent born ,in recent year,are now "Bastards".

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woody

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I certainly think that the youngsters on a very small wage and little chance of big improvement in their take home pay would be foolish to consider saving for old age. Enjoy it now. We see many our age that have never worked (on paper - black economy) and now get far more from the state than those that worked and paid tax.It is nice to own your own "Pile" and know you can leave it to the cats home but on the other hand - when your rent is paid no council tax all repairs done free etc you have to be "well off" not to think who is the fool? We are "comfortable" thank you and planned to do the round the world bit on retirement - BUT - ill health knocked that on the head and we certainly think we should have spent more time away from work when we were fit.

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Grey Goo

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Tax tablespay up here

Not sure if they help or hinder the postings

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Input Overload

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Bingalau - From your second post it does appear you voted the present parties into power?

If you did they are using 'your' mandate, a bit late to stop the train now?

'For instance, thirty years ago when young girls weren't so promiscuous ' In Merseyside? - Are you really serous? :-)

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Forum Editor

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woody

"I suspect most of us mean "Bastards" when talking about single parents - not those that have suffered bereavement"

What on earth does all that mean? You're using a word that has no real validity in today's world, and frankly there's not much point in trying to discuss a subject like this with someone who is living in the past.

A single parent is just that - a parent who is without the support of a spouse or partner. Why a parent is in that position is irrelevant as far as the statistics are concerned, and it was a statistic that I quoted. I quoted it because Bingalau mentioned something that annoyed him, and I wanted to put his example into context. Why you should think that there's a problem with what you call "out of wedlock kids" is beyond me. Why should a child be a problem, just because his or her parents weren't married?

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john bunyan

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It has been proved that children of stable relationships (married or not) do better in life, so there is a problem with the children of lone parents who often end up disadvantaged. I just wish that people would ensure they can pay for children before deciding to have them. Apart from excepional cases, why should I, who have kept my numbers of children within my means, be expected to pay via my high taxes for feckless people who have more children than they can afford? Maybe that sounds harsh but there it is.

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