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Aircraft Carriers


ams4127
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In an article in yesterday's Sunday Times it was reported that the new F35c aircraft, which have been ordered by the MoD for the Navy's new carriers, will not be able to land on them due to a design flaw.

It seems that the distance between the main U/C and the arrester hook should be about 18 to 20 feet to enable the arresting line to be caught and stop the aircraft. Unfortunately, an error in the drawings means that the actual distance is 7 feet.

It seems that a total redesign is needed and this is going to cost many pennies, adding substantially to the overall cost which may stop the MoD from ordering any of the 'planes.

Words fail me!

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Woolwell

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Covergirl - A year ago you could get a Harrier for £69,999 ebay sale

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Bingalau

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I see the forces are enduring further cuts to manpower too. Now that "We are all in this together" maybe it would be prudent to cut the strength of parliament by about 30%. I like that word "prudent" it reminds me of a certain Chancellor of the Exchequer for some reason....

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john bunyan

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Bingalau. Yes, his "prudence" , added to the later banking crisis, caused the huge debt we now are trying to reduce. Also re the cuts, I hear that the future "requirement" for a potential future amphibious assault has been reduced from a brigade (3 Commando Brigade plus the additions and Naval Forces needed) to one Battle Group (One Commando or battalion equivalent plus reduced Naval assets) Together with the temporary lack of a Fleet Air Arm the potential to mount an operation such as "Corporate" seems impossible for the forseeable future. I honestly think the cuts are going too far - but an pleased they are reducing the top brass. Re MP numbers Westminster Parliament numbers should be reduced in line with the number of Scottish, Welsh and Northern Ireland MP's.

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ams4127

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All these defence cuts, lack of carriers, lack of aircraft, and people wonder why the Argentinians are starting to rattle their sabres again. How on earth are we going to stop them this time?

Ideas anyone?!

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Quickbeam

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Nukes?

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Covergirl

"I hesitate to say it FE, but your knowledgable friend may just be an "armchair expert" despite his apparently convincing knowledge and background in military software."

He is a senior software designer for one of the world's leading aerospace companies. I have little idea about the work he does because it's classified, but I know that it's related to missile guidance systems. I think his knowledge of fighter aircraft is a little above armchair expert level.

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carver

"Theres not much point using an aircraft that can be picked up by radar when the latest designs are coming with stealth technology."

I take your point, but there's also not much point in using a carrier-based aircraft that can't land back on the carrier, can't fly at night, suffers from abnormally high buffet loads at speed, has major electrical component faults which could lead to complete electrical power loss in flight, can't fly near a thunderstorm, and has so many other faults that the Pentagon has started reducing its order quantities.

A team of U.S. and British weapons testers found "unsatisfactory progress" in developing and testing nearly all the important air combat roles in which the aircraft would be used.

Even an ignoramus like me can work out that it might be an idea to start looking around for an alternative.

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carver

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FE I was not suggesting that they use these aircraft because from every thing I have read about them they look to be a non starter in their present state. It will not be the first time we have bought things that do not work for the army or for any of the armed services.

I can't imagine how we got into the situation where we have no carriers and not even an aircraft to put on one when or if we ever get any.

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john bunyan

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ams4127, Re Falklands. We need to permanently position a submarine in the region and hope the few fighter aircraft there would deter another invasion, but see my 5.26 post yesterday for the problen of another "recapture" if te worst happened.

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ams4127

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john bunyan

Yes, I see what you mean. There probably is a submarine lurking nearby, we'll never know. It wouldn't be much good against an airborn invasion though, if the Argintinians decided to launch one and our few aircraft would soon be overwhelmed.

Let us hope that sense prevails.

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