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Anothr slant on the M5 incident
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Posted November 7, 2011 at 11:24AM
The mention of impaired visibilty raises all all sorts of issue- this was in an area known for fog.
The allegation of drifting smoke is being looked into.
Which is why STUBBLE BURNING -a common practice many years ago was Banned.
Any intentional activity the can impair visibility on a motorway would be considered in appropriate
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Posted November 7, 2011 at 11:19PM
Spuds: No point in getting Public Liability Insurance for an Orange March.
Any problem would be put down to an "Act of God"!
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Posted November 8, 2011 at 8:56AM
"It's hard to see how any form of insurance would 'cover' the deaths of seven people"
The club, as a club, almost certainly has Public Liability insurance, which would normally be to £10m+.
I can understand the police investigating the bonfire/fireworks aspect, but was it really necessary to cordon off the whole are and do a fingertip search?
Preserve a suspected crime scene by all means, but what are they hoping to find, evidence of deliberate and malicious smoke making?
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Posted November 8, 2011 at 10:21AM
"was it really necessary to cordon off the whole are and do a fingertip search?" I assume that you are referring to the M5. In this case I think it was. They weren't sure how many had actually died and they must have needed to establish the cause of the severe fire.
The club's public liability may not have extended to a firework display but may have been extended by an extra premium for a one off event and the display firm should also have liability insurance. However I think that any compensation claims could run for years, making lawyers richer, as they argue who was to blame for what.
My thoughts are with those who are bereaved and those who have suffered injuries.
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Posted November 8, 2011 at 12:44PM
"Preserve a suspected crime scene by all means, but what are they hoping to find, evidence of deliberate and malicious smoke making?".
Correct me if I am wrong, but it is a crime scene, lives have been lost,injuries (some serious) have occurred, damage as been done, and there as to be a contributing factor or factors as why this serious incident took place!.
When all the available evidence is gathered, then it will be a case of the specialist investigator's to perhaps find the 'near as possible' reasons why, and who may have been to blame. And this sure isn't going to take a few days.
Regarding driving and motorways, this website might possibly have some interesting information http://www.safermotorways.co.uk/statistics
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Posted November 8, 2011 at 1:06PM
According to local radio in the South West it appears that motorists have slowed down since Friday.
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Posted November 8, 2011 at 4:29PM
"looking for debris that might indicate that the bonfire included material that would burn with a heavy smoke; old tyres, plastic, etc.!
It would be an unusual bonfire which did not include this sort of material.
"I assume that you are referring to the M5. "
No, I'm referring to the site of the bonfire inside Taunton Rugby Club's ground.
"When all the available evidence is gathered"
But what sort of evidence are they looking for?
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Posted November 8, 2011 at 4:36PM
mordwydd
Can I suggest you contact Avon and Somerset Police and offer them your wide and detailed experience on the investigation of a crime as they clearly don't know what they are doing.
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Posted November 8, 2011 at 4:39PM
I made no such statement.
I simply asked why they were doing what they were doing, because as someone who knows nothing about it I would like to know.
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Posted November 8, 2011 at 5:04PM
"Preserve a suspected crime scene by all means, but what are they hoping to find, evidence of deliberate and malicious smoke making?"
Reads like a sarcastic statement rather than a question but if you say it was a serious attempt to understand what was occurring then police have a responsibility to gather all possible evidence - that can not be done with the public wandering around so areas get cordoned off.
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Posted November 8, 2011 at 5:12PM
"I simply asked why they were doing what they were doing, because as someone who knows nothing about it I would like to know".
Well that's very easy to explain, they were obtaining forensic evidence, which could be assumed that most people would be fully aware about nowadays!.
Changing subject slightly, I notice that there as been another 'motorway' incident, when a large lorry crashed through a barrier and landed on the dual carriageway below. Luckily there was no other vehicles involved, but the driver of the lorry was unfortunately killed.
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