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Posted October 17, 2011 at 7:15PM
What is the reason that ordinary people would disregard this small child in desperate need of help. What does it say about humanity that two drivers can run over this child and leave her to die in the road, and many passers by just look the other way?
I warn you this video is distressing!
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Posted October 20, 2011 at 1:23PM
Referring back to fourm members link (yesterday @ 8.02pm). In the link Petrica Dragusin, one of the men arrested on suspicion of child trafficking stated "The blame is with the British state, which gives them a lot of money".
I wonder how many people have said the very same thing, and have been accused of being a racialist, trouble maker or not knowing what they were talking about. When a statement like that actually comes from the horses mouth, so to say, it can only confirm that some people might be correct, and its the experts who are doing the condemning, that might be wrong?.
Going back to an earlier comment the FE made about one of his clients. In some countries his client would have been very lucky to have been able to walk away from it. A number of countries that I use to visit, the word 'murder/ violence' was a daily newspaper heading. And the person or persons dead or badly maimed would be of any gender or age group, it made very little difference. The same applied to road accidents, it was usually just a case of shrugged shoulders, and perhaps more so from the authorities.
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Posted October 20, 2011 at 2:07PM
spuds
What Petrica Dragusin mentions is out & out illegal behaviour "Some collect £10,000, £12,000, £13,000 a month - they have three or four of five sets of benefits."
It's not people exploiting the benefit system by finding everything they're entitled to, it's people claiming multiple sets of benefits.
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Posted October 20, 2011 at 2:46PM
anskyber, as you an old hand on this forum should know it's a no win no fee when the odds are 2 (or more) to one.
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Posted October 20, 2011 at 6:10PM
LanceAlot
If you have a point that's worth making, why not go ahead and make it? A well-reasoned argument would gain you some respect, even if people disagreed with you.
Descending to personal insults such as "Both of your responces speak a thousand time more about yourselves than I ever could." simply tells others that you've run out of things to say.
Why not try to rise above all that, and tell me why anyone who knows anything about Chinese society would make the mistake of saying "a country's people have absolutely no courage and their humanity has been squashed like a rotten tomato." when it simply isn't true?
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Posted October 20, 2011 at 6:43PM
Countries are pieces of land.People are individuals.I would not intervene, to stop a violent crime.You could end up dead.China is a big patch of land on planet Earth...that's all we know.
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Posted October 20, 2011 at 11:02PM
"China is a big patch of land on planet Earth...that's all we know."
Thank you for that incisive analysis.
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Posted October 21, 2011 at 9:53AM
Forum Editor: If it was a level playing field I probably would. And you can argue until you're blue in the face that it is. But I have been observing the debating tactics here for many years and can categorically conclude that it isn't.
When you're cornered you can turn very nasty indeed, and usually you're backed up by one or more sychophants. Which is why we've lost into cyberworld many good debaters.
Call it paranoia if you will, but I know differently.
Incidentally, how many years did you live in China for you to know so much about the Chinese character?
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Posted October 21, 2011 at 10:50AM
I'm not sure it's really about deep knowledge of a society which allows for sweeping statements to be questioned. Nor do I think a fashion parade of who has the greater or lesser experience of China or any other country really counts.
Some may have holidays there, business trips or have lived there but all that can do is help understanding but it is not conclusive.
Surely the point is that to characterise any nation as having particular traits be it "good" or "malevolent" is just simplistic and unrealistic. The truth as I see it is they/we are all humans with a range of characteristics and abilities including the ability to reason and set aside blatant propaganda. Which is why some of the characterisation of China and it's people in this thread must be very wide of the mark.
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Posted October 21, 2011 at 11:39AM
anskyber
I think that you have made very relevant good points regarding "holidays there,business trips or have lived there".
When people go on holiday, they are usually provided with the good things of the area, because that is what brings the tourist money in. With regards to business trips, then on the main, its good hotels and all the provisions relating to commerce, which again is related to finance, and you usually only see what is allowed or what time permits. That taxi cab ride from hotel to meeting point doesn't always reveals what the true pictures is or might be!.
When you live and possibly work in an area, then common local knowledge prevails. You can then get to see a country, warts and all. In an occupation that I participated in for many years, I travelled extensively, usually at short notice, and working for governments or projects involving governments, or very rich enterprises. Throughout that time, my colleagues and I could and did see things first hand, which no simple internet research would perhaps never reveal, because it all came down to local knowledge and assistance, which to me is/was the most important thing.
Trying to argue or portray this to some people, only meets with scorn, instead of understanding.
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Posted October 21, 2011 at 3:59PM
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