Thanks for the perspective fourm member.

And the explanation mark in teh title of this thread should be a question mark.

Me? Down with jumped up, tyranical idiots and legalized assault, I say.

If you watch nature films how many time have you seen a lioness give one of her cubs a wallop with her paw for misbehaving? Why should humankind be any different.

I attended a secondary school & then a grammar school,during my time at the secondary school a teacher was locked in a cupboard by her pupils and subsequently left after suffering a nervous breakdown.The Headmaster at the secondary school used a bamboo cane regularly,there were several Housemasters who'd use a variety of weapons ranging from steel rulers to a "fish-bat" (a bat made out of plywood shaped like a fish & about the size of a table-tennis bat)The majority of the pupils were well behaved with a small group getting assaulted often.The Headmaster of the Grammar School often boasted that in his 30+ years of teaching,he'd never once had to resort to violence to control pupils(though I came very close to ruining his record)and the teachers were still able to maintain discipline with just the threat of a caning from the Headmaster.I was assaulted by the gym teacher at the grammar school who thumped me round the side of my head for nothing more than explaining my parents wouldn't buy me another gym kit as I only had a few more weeks at the school to go.

Detentions were handed out frequently at both schools,were I to return to school for all the detentions I received(if you missed one,you were given double)and missed,I'd probably be dead and buried and still not have served them all.

I agree that something needs to be done to regain some sort of order at schools,but Society burnt its bridge when corporal punishment was vetoed as children now consider themselves beyond the law.We now have a generation who have never had anything worse than a faceless entity award them a badge of honour(ASBO)for wrongdoing.There is now no such word as "failed" or "loser" at school,as the namby-pambys insist on rewarding the under-achievers or last placed in a race,etc.At the last "Parents Day" I attended with my daughter,I listened carefully to each of her teachers explaining that my daughter was presently a grade C but she should be trying to improve to a grade B or that she was presently grade A and only needed to be grade C.I came away from the meeting & was scratching my head in puzzlement as I couldn't fathom what her teachers were asking for.It sounded like she was being asked to improve in some subjects but under-achieve in others,else she'd be moved into a different classroom.I also lost count of the number of times I heard the word target,& I also wonder about what actual qualifications you need to become a teacher as most communications I receive from the school contain many spelling mistakes.Leading by example? I think not.