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shellship

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Just finished watching all of the Last Night of the Proms. Admittedly I am biased having tried to watch it for more years than I can admit but there there were 10,000 or so in the Albert Hall, hundreds of thousands in Hyde Park, many in Northern Ireland and Scotland and would have been lots in Wales had the weather not intervened. Nary a policeman in sight and no signs of bad behaviour - apart from bonhomie. Compare with the Tottenham riots and the Notting Hill Carnival where massive police representation was necessary. What has gone wrong?

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Aitchbee

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I like classical music but I detest opera.I thought low life was things like amoebas and plankton...they must have things that turn them on...heat and light come to mind.

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Flak999

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Perhaps we should look at this issue from another standpoint. I watched the last night of the proms as well and the thing that struck me was the ethnic make up of the audience. There was not a black face to be seen! What does this tell us? That (A) black people don't like classical music? or (B) black people are not patriotic and don't like to attend concerts that are steeped in English patriotism?

A pan round with the camera at such a vast crowd is not a scientific study I will readily agree, and there may have been some ethnic minority people lurking out of shot on the periphery, but during the coverage of the concert and the outside broadcast at Hyde park I did not notice anybody who was not white! They were young and old, able bodied and disabled and judging from the pink union flags homosexual as well.

Simon Jary's flippant comment regarding the shooting of a violinist is crass in the extreme, if a violinist had been toting a "Chicago piano" in his violin case and had been shot by the police I would suggest that this audience would have thought he got what he deserved!

What does this tell us?

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Aitchbee

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I would like to defend Simon Jary's remark, as it was meant as a joke.He should not feel guilty about it;we all make remarks that sometimes we would like to retract(or on seconds thoughts-(to oneself)think it is(was) a valid (and straight-from-the-heart statement).We all gain from everybody's thoughts put into words.Right or wrong.(The remarks, that is)

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morddwyd

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"There was not a black face to be seen! What does this tell us?"

That they are probably so poor that they can't afford tickets, or that they are working such long hours that they cannot afford the time to queue for the cheap ones.

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Quickbeam

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"There was not a black face to be seen! What does this tell us?"

That the PC Brigade haven't managed to infiltrate this popular annual festival, which is staunchly defended by the bastion of jingoistic Britishness?

It's as English as Ray Davies's Village Green Preservation Society idyl.

God save strawberry jam and all the different varieties...

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Aitchbee

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QB - what about the 'Gollywog variety'. That went for a burton before PC meant anything...

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Quickbeam

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Maybe I should have finished with the God save little shops, china cups and virginity line...?

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Aitchbee

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Nice Kinks link - QB.

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