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On-the-spot fines planned for careless driving


wids001

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Is this plan too simplistic? According to the report critics claim careless driving is not clear cut.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-13356057

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wee eddie

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It makes good sense to me.

Although there is the ever present possibility of either error on the part of the Issuer or even Victimisation of the Recipient. This is an ever present possibility and would be difficult to cover in law.

It should be possible, like a Parking Fine, to take the Issuer to Court if the Receiver feels that they have been ill-served.

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spider9

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Brings back to mind the 'march them to a cashpoint machine' of the Blair plan for tackling drunks.

Expect similar outcome. (Where would the nearest cash machine likely be if you're on some motorway?).

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bremner

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My local force currently struggles to provide officers for all their multi role tasks.

They are to lose 700 officers due to the cuts.

Where are the remaining officers going to find the opportunity to issue such tickets?

Another scheme that will have virtually no impact on road safety.

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spider9

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Bremner

*Another scheme that will have virtually no impact on road safety.

Agreed - but makes a good 'Aren't we being tough on crime' headline, I suppose.

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Quickbeam

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Hoorah! If it ever sees the light of day...

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Quickbeam

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Just to balance things out... Dangerous Cycling Law

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buteman

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What is the difference if they are driving carelessly they will be pulled over and given a ticket so same outcome. Maybe since a lot of speed camera's no longer work they have to get funds in from elsewhere. So what's next doing 72 Mph on the motorway will you be charged with speeding or driving carelessly. After 40 years of driving I cannot see the difference instant fine or ticket just sounds the same to me. And it will be open to abuse by the good cop bad cop routine. If you have not met a bad one yet you are in for a treat when you do. I am afraid it is those ones that give the police a bad name.

So what will be the difference,a ticket you can appeal against I suppose an on the spot fine you could do the same.

Obviously an on the spot fine does not mean that you have to pay it when it happens as you may not have any cash on you.Or will they impound your vehicle until you do pay. Anybody ever notice that most car Mirrors have a blind spot on them that do not detect cars right beside you in an other lane. A few times I have signaled to move out on to another lane on the motorway only to see the car at the last minute and get back into lane or a blast from the car to warn you. Now this would be classed as careless driving and if it has never happened to you it would certainly scare you. By law it would be your fault but what can you do you look in your mirror and pull out you do not see the car on your right hand side and this must have caused loads of accidents on Motorways. So sometimes it is the car that has a flaw in it and not the driver although he or she would still be charged with dangerous driving. I will point out I have not hit any other car but came close a few times because of the blind spot on the mirror.

I seem to be rambling a bit as usual but thought that I would add the mirror bit for those that have not experienced it yet and point out that it was a small van I was driving, so maybe with cars you can see out of the side windows to see traffic better.

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Quickbeam

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Did his boot need much tidying?

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Bingalau

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The police in some European countries fine you on the spot. I was stopped in my British registered car, in Germany when following my son in his German registered car. We came to a speed limit area and I slowed down (my son kept to the speed we had been doing.) A few hundred yards later I was pulled over and asked for my passport. The police took that, then issued me with a speeding ticket to be payed for on the spot or I wouldn't get my passport back. I am still convinced I was pulled over as "easy meat" because of my British number plate. I also still know I was not speeding. That is the only time I have ever been stopped by police in sixty years of driving.

The system would work here if we all carried ID cards/passports I suppose.

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Bingalau

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May I suggest a quick glance over your right shoulder when changing lanes on motorways etc. (as motorcyclists do, I hope).

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