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Scottish election and SNP win


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I see that the SNP have won 69 seats and thus gained an overall majority in the Scottish Parliamentary election. Gaining this majority now means he has enough Holyrood votes to hold an independence referendum. Do you think that Alex Salmond, when elected the First Minister of Scotland, will now strive to achieve his long-held wish?

Secondly, what in your opinion would separation mean to the rest of us in Britain? TC.

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spider9

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"..the way debate works.."

I didn't make the statement you refer to earlier, I merely asked if there was evidence that Scotland is a net 'taker'. A perfectly reasonable question, I would have thought, in the circumstances where others are claiming the opposite.

But, as you are appointing yourself as debate organiser, then we obviously must play by your rules!

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spider9

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As far as I'm concerned I would like a period of SNP 'total' government in order to make a decision on how independence might just 'feel'. With the previous coalition you never felt it was truly a nationalist government, so I think it is better to wait till near the end of the term before asking the question.

A good enough reason for me, albeit that I'm not Scttish anyway!

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"All the polls and surveys and predictions suggest that 70% of the people are against independence."

Precisely, and the SNP knows it.

But then, there's just that chance that when actually asked to vote on the subject a lot of those who responded negatively to opinion polls would tick the box for independence, just because it would represent change. Not enough to swing the result,perhaps, but enough to make everyone sit up and take notice.

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morddwyd

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There's always that chance, of course, but my gut feeling "on the street" as it were is the opposite - if it comes to the crunch and an actual decision even more people will shy away.

However, there are so many variables between now and referendum time that any prediction is little more than a guess, and not an inspired or educated guess either.

We are in totally uncharted waters here.

We live in interesting times!

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natdoor

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Alex Salmond either genuinely wants independance for Scotland, in which case he is a fool, or he merely uses it to drum up support for his party, in which case he is deceitful. It's a close call and he could even be both.

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morddwyd

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"All students from continental EU countries are entitled to free university education in Scotland."

No they are not, they are entitled to free university education in the UK.

We are presupposing the fantasy that Scotland is no longer in the UK, and no longer "Under EU law"

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morddwyd

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fourm member

That's a racist remark.

If it's good enough for Slovenia and Slovakia it's good enough for us!

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zzzz999

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The most basic of research shows that Scotland is a net contibutor to the UK. Only the London Evening Standard continues to peddle the under informed nonsense that Scotland is subsidised by the rest of the UK.

I assume when seperation comes the Prime Minister of what remains of the UK will make a speach thanking Scotland and her natural resources for saving the UK from bankruptcy and the IMF again.

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spider9

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"I think people in Germany would say they've done enough supporting economic basket cases"

Strange, then, that Cameron says he will 'fight with every fibre of his body' to keep Scotland in the UK.
Also it would mean the Tories would be in permanent power in England if they lost the Scottish Labour constituencies - are you saying the Tories wouldn't like that?

For a so-called 'basket case', Scotland seems somewhat popular with Cameron, don't you think?

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morddwyd

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"Scotland seems somewhat popular with Cameron"

Too popular.

I don't think he (or Clegg for that matter) did the local parties any favours by coming to Scotland to "assist" in campaigning.

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