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AV, was Clegg set up?


spider9
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Was it coincidence that throughout the coalition Clegg has been given 'bad news' to impart and thus incur the wrath of voters and his own Party members? Now he is 'leading' the AV campaign, his reduced standing will also reflect on people's way of deciding on AV. But, more interesting, will be what happens after the vote - if AV fails then I think the grass-roots Libs may well want big changes, even a new leader.

Might prove to be a problem for Dave and the coalition.

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lotvic

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spider9, you are correct it is how many you wish to rank - information in the official booklet from The Electoral Commission

'You can choose how many cadidates to rank. You don't have to rank every candidate. As long as you rank at least one, your vote will be counted.'

Some people on here and elsewhere seem to be confused about that.... as well as which country we live in.

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lotvic

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cadidates = candidates (or maybe cads..)

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Strawballs

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lotvic they are not confused just scare mongering and not just Clegg set up they have been doing it to all the Libs anything that they think will be unpopular it will fall to a Lib minister

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Kevscar1

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IF AV doesn't work neither would PR although it would be a good way to cut the cost of Parliment. Only 33% vote so 2/3rd Of the house of Commons is empty for the next Parlimentry tern as 2/3ds of the population don't want an MP. Actually I'm starting to like the idea of PR

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spider9

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Kevscar

I'm not entirely sure if you understand any of the voting systems if you think that because only one third of people vote then there will only be a one third full House of Commons!!

But, at least you are not scared by AV. (;-)

lotvic

Thanks for that clarification.

Strawballs

Agree, the PM has played a clever game, getting the LibDems into their present situation. It will all end badly, I fear.

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spider9

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I agree, it's just odd to hear many Tory MPs (and Varsi, leading the NO campaign?) saying exactly that, along with Papua New Guinea. Makes you wonder who to believe, doesn't it.

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natdoor

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fourm member

Australia is a federation of states. AV is used in state elections and in national elections. However, there are differences between the system used in state elections. In some the system proposed for the UK is used. All work satisfactorily. Hence the case that Australia uses so it's OK for us is proved. I leave others to judge who knows what they are talking about.

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Kevscar1

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spider9 If PR means that each party gets a % of the vote then to be fair that should mean that if 67% of the population do not think that any of the poloticain or parties deserve to be in office those seats should remain empty. That is true PR.

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Quickbeam

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That sounds more like the route to dictatorship by the few seats granted to me.

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