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The AV referendum


Quickbeam

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"the campaign has thrown up some strange alliances... Meanwhile, the "yes" campaign will see Mr Miliband rub shoulders with Vince Cable, who has found himself at odds with his Conservative coalition colleagues in recent days over immigration policy."

Listening to the street, people still don't get it that the coalition entails talking to and dealing with unlikely partners. The popular press still castigates the LibDems for reneging on their manifesto while blindly ignoring that the Tories have also had to compromise their ideal winner takes all position, because they're not in a position to do so, because they weren't given carte blanche at the election.

Should the AV take the day, how long do you think it'll take to get away from the I expected XXX from my party because they had the largest number of votes? I think it'll take a generation to get used to the change away from the my turn, you're turn, we'll do it our way regardless method that first past the post has given us.

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BT

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The abysmal turnouts do reflect the real wishes of the 'people', they don't wish to vote so they don't bother to turn-out.

Then they don't have any right to start complaining when the Government or Local Councils are doing things that they don't agree with. If they want their representatives to reflect their views then they should at least play a part in selecting them.

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carver

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If the AV system ever did get voted for just how would you vote in the future, part manifestos would be a thing of the past.

Not one of them would be able to give an assurance or even a suggestion of what they intended to do in government, it would be a free for all to say what ever they thought pleased the peasants at the run up to an election.

Our present troubles about voting are not because it's broken but apathy from the people of this country towards politicians who have used their position to feather their own nests at our expense and once they have become elected just to carry on the same way regardless of the wishes of the people of this country.

What I would like to vote for is a system were if an MP was elected solely on a promise made before the election you could get him removed as an MP.

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spuds

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Carver, removing an MP on a promise made, would virtually render Parliament empty. Most if not all politicians say what their party wants them to say, and perhaps more so if it will bring in votes. Gullible public comes to mind?.

Once elected your MP gains many powers, some of which the public are not aware. If you write to your elected MP, then he or she is not obliged to reply or help, perhaps quite a number of people are not even aware of that?.

Even if an MP wants to resign before completion of term (ill health or another pursuit), there are certain procedures that have to be followed, usually by giving that MP an 'opt-out' job title!.

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carver

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spuds "Gullible public comes to mind?" why? are you saying that an MP would lie to me just to get elected, surely not.

And theres me thinking that an MP was above this sort of thing, hang on there was a little thing about Clegg lying about some thing to do with students.

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Quickbeam

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My ballot arrived this morning and I've made my choice for a change.

I've never been impressed with the FPTP, and I see an AV win as a temporary and necessary step towards full PR.

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hssutton

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Ballot papers arrived at my home today. All three of us voted for FPTP. Quickbeam and my household have voted. So at the moment that gives 3-1 in favour of FPTP :)

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