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Startup Items NOT starting XP


Fruit Bat /\0/\
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XP SP3 fully updated

for last couple of days my progs that should start on boot haven't

i.e Avast, Sygate firewall, Spamihilator, , Acronis, - Keyfuffle and Tclock in Start menu all should appear in system tray.

Checked with CCleaner they are shown as enabled, the keys are there in the registry HKLM...Run

They all start OK if selected from the program menu

Scanned with Hitman pro, Avast and Malwarebytes, nothing found

Tried a system restore made no difference

Restored last Fridays Acronis Image yesterday booted OK everything fine

Switched PC on this morning and back to same fault.

Anyone have any ides?

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Secret-Squirrel

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Fruit Bat, even though the relevant icons aren't appearing in the Notification Area, have you checked in Task Manager to see if the programs are actually running?

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Fruit Bat /\0/\

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Yes

Part of Avast seems to be running

but all the others are not.

Not happy with MSE at the moment have it on another XP machine and I don't think its doing the job.

Might give Commdo try.

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Fruit Bat /\0/\

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Now its getting silly!

Two attempts to boot to safemode and safemode with networking gave BSOD with an 0x000007B

Wonder if this is something to do with the MB3 error I get on every start but boots past it - thought this was something to do with Acronis secure zone.

A reboot to normal mode has boot up as it should with all startup programs running OK and the Start config screen coming up to say I've made changes?

Well I did look in msconfig two or three boots ago :0)

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Fruit Bat /\0/\

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No problems in Device manager

I'll see what happens on a reboot in the morning

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Terry Brown

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You have probably tried it, but have a look at the Device manager (Windows Key + Break) , select hardware the Device manager and see if you have any yellow question marks, which may indicate a problem.

It could also be that one of your programs is disabling the others.

Another alternative is download SIW.EXE (System information Windows) which is a diagnostic tool and will show you all programs and hardware on your system.

Caution- This is a powerful tool and you can damage your system is you try to adjust the wrong program/ settings, however it does give a lot of useful information on how your system is working.

Terry

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Fruit Bat /\0/\

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Done all the checks mentioned so far and found nothing. Network and Sound icon always appear its the security ones that should autorun and Tclock (customisable system tray clock) and keyfuffle (puts sounds on certain keys) both in startmenu that seem to have not wanted to work over the last couple of days.

Have SIW pro also been using process explorer to try and find the culprit.

Just booted up and everything is as it should be.

Will do a reboot in a few hours to see if the problem reoccurs.

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Batch

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That's an interesting link that Jock1e has posted. Many of the symptoms were as I'd experienced. I note that it mentions about timing issues.

One of the other things (other than Avast pgm u/d) that may also of ameliorated things for me was the latest Windows Update (which I installed last week on my return from Greece). Whether the Windows Update actually changed anything relevant, I don't know. But is is likely that just installing the updates has caused the timings on boot to change (even if only slightly). That leads on to another simple thing to try to change the timings: Defrag the system partition.

As a defrag will move a number of things around (as well as defrag), the timings on boot may get changed such that (if it is a timing issue) the problem goes away.

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nuttypiglet

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I had lots of issues with avast. A year ago I switched to microsoft essentials and have never looked back.

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Fruit Bat /\0/\

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Batch I restored an image - everything fine

booted a few hours later and back to the problem therefore I don't think its an MS update problem maybe and Avast problem as that updated its self but would suspect others to have same problem if so.

Its been OK on last two boots so it may have sorted itself however its annoying me not knowing what caused it in the first place.

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lotvic

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I wonder if it might be worth a play with settings on this: Rightclick the Start button and choose Properties | Taskbar tab | at the bottom under Notification Area settings there is a tick box for 'Hide inactive icons' | if you tick that the 'Cusomize' button becomes available and you can choose the notification behaviour. Then, next to each item, if you click on words 'Hide when inactive' there is a dropdown menu of choices.

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