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Non computer question - a Lamona electric hob help or manual needed?


Graphicool1

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Hi Guys

Can anyone point me in the right direction. Last night, while cooking dinner, our 'Lamona stainless steel electric hob' flashed, went bang and switched off! Although the oven still works, but I imagine they're wired seperately. The strange thing is though the cooker is shown in the fuse box, the hob isn't and nothing was tripped. So I'm at a loss as to what's happened.

I just thought I'd ask, on the off chance anyone had any insight on this product? Failing that I'll give the electrician a bell, although I'm trying to avoid having to pay for a fix. Being as you have to pay £30 or £40 plus just to call them out. Not only that but the ones round here don't seem that competant. Last time I have need to call them out, I had to tell them how the fuse box worked and they have a good reputation??!!

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Fruit Bat /\0/\

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I would expect its connected by a "fused spur" behind the work unit its mounted on

and the fuse is blown because one of the rings has blown

not a normal electrician's job but for someone who does appliance repairs

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Forum Editor

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These hobs have a 32Amp fuse rating, and will pull 6.5 KW when running at full blast. That means the hob should have its own cable feed direct from the main fuse box.

The fact that no fuse has tripped isn't in itself an indication that the hob isn't supplied by its own feed. There may still be live current inside the terminal box on the hob, so don't poke around there unless you know what you're doing.

As Fruit Bat /\0/\ says, this is a job for an appliance specialist.

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Graphicool1

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Thanks guy's

I only bought this bungalow last year, I got it relatively cheap. Because there had been a fire on the premises, in which someone died. It stood empty for a year, with no takers, until I happened along. The owner had been the victim, so it was an Insurance job. They had the place cleared, re-wired (supposedly), new bathroom fittings including shower unit. New kitchen, integral fridge, oven and hob. The very latest 'State of the Art' fuse box. Hence, (as said in my first post) when I called out the electrician he'd never seen one like it before?

When we moved in there were papers to say that all electrics had been signed off and passed. The fridge didn't work and had to be entirely removed from its housing. Only to find that the fridge power point was on the wall behind the fridge and the fridge wasn't plugged in!? There is no hot water, because the emersion timer is in an almost ineccessible position. Both it and the the feed wire still bear the scars of the fire. If you try to set it, it sparks and crackles! The Hob isn't fixed to the work surface and just slides about! The oven should be fixed with four screws and 'O' rings provided. They are still in the bag they came in, the screws that were used to fit the oven, were only two in total and on an angle. The Hob extractor fan, fitted on the wall above the hob, works, but only in as much as it sucks up smoke and or steam and then releases it back into the room through vents at the top! It hadn't been vented through the wall, I had that done recently. We were told that all outside lights had been disconnected and as such were nolonger live. I went into the back garden, climbed a ladder and with rubber handled cutters, I cut through one of the wires. There was a BANG & FLASH the cutters were blackened and all our power went off...I was fine! We called out an election, who made it safe, yet still seemed to find it amusing!

There are two lights at the front of the property which I was going to dismantle. But being a little more wary now, I thought I'd check first. In the hall there was a light switch near the front door, I switched it and both outside lights came on. In the bathroom there are two pull switches. But it doesn't matter which one you pull, as they both do the same thing. They both switch on the light and extractor fan. One small problem here though, the extractor fan has been fitted the wrong way round, it draws cold air in from outside. There were and still are many other problems both electrical and non electrical.

After discovering all these problems I got in touch with my solicitor and ran the by her. Her response was "It's a case of buyer beware, you should have checked these things before you bought the property"

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Nontek

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Graphicool1

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Hi Nontek

Thanx for the thought. But we don't have any idea who the electrician or builders were and when I phoned the Insurance people who sent them, they told me that the only way I could communicate to them was through my soliciter and you know what happened with them.

anyway from what I've seen of that programme, apart from the designer woman and her builder; falling out about how much each property is going to cost to put right and how long it will take. The other idiot spends most of his time trying to track down the culprit, buy chasing after moving cars and when he does find them, mostly he might just as well not bothered. Not for me thanx.

In any case we'd rather do it ourselves, to our taste, as and when we can afford it. Add to that my wife is camera shy and our feral cat is anti everyone apart from us.

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Fruit Bat /\0/\

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I think you had better get a reputable Electrician in to trace through your wiring to make sure its all safe.

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Graphicool1

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Fruit Bat /\0/\

We don't seem to have much luck when it comes to picking electricians. The only way I know of getting one are through people I know and that have used them and swear by them, rather than about them! But when they came to us they tend to lack lustre? We're beging to think we're jinxed. The company aroung here that was top of the list for popularity came out, looked at the pull switches in the bathroom and said. No problem just tuck one of them up out of the way. I said but I want one to turn the light on/off and the other to turn the fan on/off.

His reply..."Why would you want the light on without the fan/"

I said..."I don't need the light on when it's not dark and I don't need the fan on when I'm having a shower"

he said..."Oh, OK I'll send one of my guys round to sort it out" When his guy come round he was a young apprentice and he couldn't do the job. So I phone the boss and apart for sendoing me a bill for work NOT carried out. I haven't heard from him since.

The latest guy, who I came round two weeks ago, took a look and said he wasn't at all happy with the look of the wiring and said he felt it needed seeing to immeadiately and sent us an estimate that very evening, which we gave the go ahead to. Said he would do it the following weekend. That was two weeks ago, he hasn't been back yet. I just phoned him and told him about the Hob. He said he'd be round tomorrow midday!? Fingers crossed.

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woodchip

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Any Bang in 240volts means a short that as blown a Fuse Wire or something sopping it working, you need to investigate. There will be black burn marks where the short is. Make sure cooker disconnected from mains before opening up

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woodchip

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stopping it working. t missing get that with netbook keyboard, works as an when it wants

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Graphicool1

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Hi WoodChip

Yeah, but the trouble is, as far as I can make out, you have to remove the oven to be able to get under the hob. I have the literature on how to install the oven. So it wouldn't be a problem working backwards to uninstall it. However there isn't any point uninstalling it if I have no idea where I should be looking and what for on/under the Hob. Hence my original question 'Can anyone point me towards a manual?'

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