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Re-Build Computer


Richard1980
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Evening, right I don't even know where to start ehehe but here it goes... In 2006 I built a computer which would last me at least 5 years, it's now almost 6 years, and poor little guy is struggling...

The thing is, I use to know quite a bit of computers hardware and software, but this was 6 years ago... recently I found out that manufacturers don't do any more parts to desktop... which lead me to a trip to the unknown...

I'm completely lost, Motherboards, drives, cables, everything is looking more and more from the twilight zone for me (yes I'm getting old too).

I know there's a budget for everything including build a PC from scratch like mine but since mine is quite old I just want to upgrade it so I think I wont need to spend a big amount of money (like £1000) since it might be easy to find some parts... I don't want it for gaming or so but mainly I need it touse AutoCAD (don't know if you recognise this software but involves 2D and 3D drafting, with lots of rendering)...

I would like to ask you guys that are definitely more experienced then I am, what Motherboard, Drives, etc would I need to get to achieve this. I'm not asking a top of the charts piece of hardware but more like near the bottom parts but better then what I've got.

Can you help me with this?

Here follows what I have:

CPU:

Processor

Name: AMD Sempron 3400+

Code name: Manila

Brand ID: 6

Package: Socket AM2 (940)

Technology: 90nm

Core voltage: 1.360 V

Specification: AMD Sempron(tm) Processor 3400+

Family: F

Model: F

Stepping: 2

Ext.Family: F

Ext. Model: 5F

Revision: DH-F2

Instructions: MMX(+), 3DNow!(+), SSE (1,2,3), x86-64

Clocks (Core#0)

Core Speed:2022.5 Mhz

Multiplier: x 9.0

Bus Speed: 224.7 MHz

HT Link: 898.9 MHz

Cache

L1 Data: 64 KBytes - 2-way L1 Inst.: 64 KBytes - 2-way Level 2: 256 KBytes- 16-way

Cores: 1

Threads: 1

CACHES

L1 D-Cache: 64 KBytes (2 way set associative, 64-byte line size)

L1 I-Cache: 64 KBytes (2 way set associative, 64-byte line size)

L2 Cache: 256 KBytes (16 way set associative, 64-byte line size)

MAINBOARD

Motherboard

Model: ALiveXFire-eSATA2

Chipset: ATI Xpress 200 (RS480) Rev.01

Southbridge: ATI SB600 Rev.00

LPCIO: Winbond W83627EHF

BIOS

Brand: American Megatrends Inc.

Version: P1.00

Date: 09/14/2006

Graphic Interface

Version: PCI-Express

Link Width: x8

Max. Supported: x16

MEMORY

General

Type: DDR2

Channels #:Dual

Size: 2048 MBytes

Timings

DRAM Frequency: 404.5 Mhz

FSB:DRAM: CPU/5

CAS# Latency (CL): 5.0 Clocks

RAS# to CAS# Delay (tRCD): 5 Clocks

RAS# Precharge (tRP): 5 Clocks

Cycle Time (tRAS): 18 Clocks

Ban Cycle Time (tRC): 24 Clocks

Command Rate (CR): 2T

SPD

Slot 1 & Slot 2 contain:

DDR2

Module size: 1024 MBytes

Correction: None

Max Bandwidth: PC2-6400(400 MHz)

Timings Table

JEDEC #1

Frequency: 200 MHz

CAS# Latency: 3.0

RAS# to CAS#: 3

RAS# Precharge: 3

tRAS: 9

tRC: 12

Voltage: 1.80 V

JEDEC #2

Frequency: 266 MHz

CAS# Latency: 4.0

RAS# to CAS#: 4

RAS# Precharge: 4

tRAS: 12

tRC: 16

Voltage: 1.80 V

JEDEC #3

Frequency: 400 MHz

CAS# Latency: 5.0

RAS# to CAS#: 5

RAS# Precharge: 5

tRAS: 18

tRC: 23

Voltage: 1.80 V

GRAPHICS

GPU

Name: NVIDIA GeFORCE 7900 GS

Code Name: G71 Rev.A2

Technology: 90nm

Clocks

Core: 450 MHz

Memory: 660 MHz

Memory

Size: 256 MBytes

Bus Width: 256 bits

This is all the information I found...I'm really lost guys and would really need a guidance from someone that definitely knows more then me. (which is easy eheheh) thanks for reading...and awaiting replies...

Best Regards

RL

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Richard1980

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Just been watching, and calculating, and financialising my head (no this word doesn't exist eheheh) and to be satisfied with the computer it self, so My decision will be Spec 2, with new HDD, new optical drive, and Windows 7 64 Bit OEM from Scan. This way I'll have the 32 and 64 bit disk. So top of top £500 and I honestly think I'm ok with it. Or due to my lack of experience on this matter do you think with the new £500 budget I can do things differently? or is ok as I decided?

Cheers for all the help guys you've been giving me so far.

RL

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gengiscant

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A wise choice Richard1980 The Quadro although expensive is the way to go and by getting a new HDD and optical drive with windows 7 you will have an excellent rig.

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Richard1980

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The only thing I can say at the moment is a big thank you for all of advice to all of you...

I'll keep you guys posted through my progress...

Have a good rest of week and a good weekend,

RL

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gengiscant

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Before you thank to much I have been doing a bit more research and it has been suggested that a Quadro 600 is on par with a GT 430 so you really should be looking at a GTX 560.Which is around the same price. I know nothing of Autocad so you might like to ask perhaps at a forum which specialises in it.I'm sure they could give you more info on the graphics card to get.

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Richard1980

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Morning, Right, I had a chat with some guys from AutoCAD and they reckon the GTX 560 is a master piece to work with.

Now, after I arrived home decided to have just one meal per day eheheh I came up with this, just tell me what do you think:

PC Case: Xclio Nighthawk Mid Tower Case with Side Panel Window with Fan Controller LN41809 - £53.97

Mobo: GA-H61N-USB3-B3 £70.33 LN41692 – £79.92

CPU: Intel CPU Core i5 2300 £142.98 LN36729 - £147.77

RAM: Corsair Memory XMS3 8GB DDR3 £38.16 LN33670 - £42.95

GPU: 1GB EVGA GeForce GTX 560 SC NVIDIA Graphics Card LN40649 - £157.86

Windows 7 64-bit OEM LN29163 - £112.87

HDD: 500GB Seagate Momentus 5400.6 Hard Drive – HDD LN26696 – £82.78

Cables: StarTech.com 6" 20 pin ATX Power Supply to 24 pin Motherboard Adapter AMAZON - £5

Optical Drive: Sony AD-7261S-0B SATA Writer LN36039 - £21.82

TOTAL = £705

Cheers

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gengiscant

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I am not sure that your PSU will be sufficient with that card also I believe that you will need 2 x 6pin pci-express connectors which I doubt your PSU will have. If you have one 6Pin connector then you can use the molex to 6 pin adapter that will come with the GPU. But I really feel you need a minimum of 500W. Apart from that nice build.

Do you need the professional version of Windows 7?

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Richard1980

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I think you’re absolutely right. My doubts were in the PSU, PC Case and the HDD…

PSU was, if 400W (the one I have) was enough or not..

PC Case, if it’s big enough and compatible with motherboard… (probably a newbie question)

HDD, if I can find at same price but or bigger capacity or same size but bigger speed…

Resuming, and with the new PSU:

PC Case: Xclio Nighthawk Mid Tower Case with Side Panel Window with Fan Controller LN41809 - £53.97

Mobo: GA-H61N-USB3-B3 £70.33 LN41692 – £79.92

CPU: Intel CPU Core i5 2300 £142.98 LN36729 - £147.77

RAM: Corsair Memory XMS3 8GB DDR3 £38.16 LN33670 - £42.95

GPU: 1GB EVGA GeForce GTX 560 SC NVIDIA Graphics Card LN40649 - £157.86

Windows 7 64-bit OEM LN29163 - £112.87

HDD: 500GB Seagate Momentus 5400.6 Hard Drive – HDD LN26696 – £82.78

Optical Drive: Sony AD-7261S-0B SATA Writer LN36039 - £21.82

PSU: 750W PSU, Alpine ALPINE-750W, Quiet Fan, ATX v2.03 LN39193 – £32.02

TOTAL = £733

The total is rising and I’m starting to realize I’m losing control on the costs… This might be a project for 4 or 5 months now… I don’t have any Windows 7, but yes, I’m intending to get the Professional version.

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gengiscant

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Two of these:HDD where one will back up the other, unless of course you have an external drive which you use for backup.

Case, I prefer this: CASE but I like Coolermaster gear, plus your GPU is a long card which is supported in this case.

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Richard1980

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and I just remembered other thing... modem... eheheh I keep reminding these things and I'm sure I'll end up spending £900 or so... true that I'll have a computer for more then 2 years, probably will last around 4 or 5 years eheheh...

Regarding Modems, what's your advice on this matter?

(I'm building the final shopping list for this computer sop in the end...I'll post it here, not only for your comments but too to help other guys that might be thinking in building their PC from scratch. So be prepared eheheh)

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Richard1980

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related to the "Modem" I talking about an Internal one, I have a Belkin which is honestly and seriously old...

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