I would just like to take this opportunity to thank everyone who responded to my questions. Its fantastic so many people are ready to help others with all the technical mystery of computers and the internet, long may you Reign. We have finally discovered why none of the numbers we entered didn't work, for some reason the number on the router was different to the on on our internet settings, probably changed when Tiscali was taken over by TT. All up and working so far, my wife will spend some time getting used to the Kindle and making some mistakes but she will get there in the end, thanks once again.