"Jock1e" Thanks for the reply but I should have made it clearer - I was posting about win mail - not win live mail.
Why they decided to have so many email progs I do not know!!
I also have tried some others but like win mail for my day to day stuff. I need to have win8 working (don't like it) for testing purposes so it looks like I will have to try some of the non MS emails.