A Very Worrying Aspect of Credit Card Fraud

  €dstowe 08:05 10 May 07
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"Operation Ore focused on over 7,000 people whose credit cards were used to buy illegal porn from a US website.

Lawyers and computer experts have told BBC Radio 4's The Investigation that many of those arrested may have been innocent victims of credit card fraud."

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  GANDALF <|:-)> 08:15 10 May 07

Not wishing to be cynical but they would say that wouldn't they? I'm sure that their ISP records would have confirmed or denied whether they were downloading earlier than now.

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  g0slp 08:20 10 May 07

I've just heard one of those people caught up by this in an interview on Radio 5. It made for scary listening.

Operation Ore, we must remember, wasn't just porn, but kiddie stuff; truly repulsive. Quite right that the guilty are dealt with extremely severely, but you really must feel sorry for those caught up in it through no fault of their own.

  spuds 12:18 10 May 07

Follow ups from information provided, usually means that evidence is required ie Hard-drive images.No evidence on any computer that you have access, or ISP have no records linked to you, then use of a credit card ??.

  €dstowe 12:41 10 May 07

By which time your house has been publicly raided by plods in hobnail boots, all the neighbours know about it because plod can't keep his mouth shut and so it goes on until you end up in the News of the World - I know someone it's happened to, not with credit card fraud but with mistaken identity and a scandal with a pop singer.

  spuds 13:03 10 May 07

I fully appreciate what you are saying, but going in another direction, many people in Northern Ireland had 'plods in hobnail boots' raiding their homes and confiscating computer equipment, in the height of the troubles. Many of these people were found to be totally innocent of any crimes. They also had very little say on events taken to safeguard the interests of authorities and fellow people!.

I am not saying it is right or wrong, whatever officialdom dictates,there will always be the innocent and guilty of one scale or another, but that is the way now with modern technology and the way people use it.

  Spark6 14:36 10 May 07

This aspect of CC fraud appears to punish the card holders twice, i.e. responsible for paying the charges to their cards and being prosecuted and all that that entails. I wonder how many of the innocent ones had queried these charges at the time, had their cards destroyed and changed before the visit from 'plod'!

Having said that, I don't doubt for one minute that this type of fraud is prevalent, similar to on-line gambling.

  Belatucadrus 17:23 10 May 07

click here for an in depth look at Operation Ore or should it have been Operation D'oh! Doesn't exactly fill you with confidence I'm afraid.

  Spark6 19:59 10 May 07

An interesting insight into 'card not present' fraud. I'm surprised though at the naivety of those who disclosed so much of their personal details.

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