Transporting Mobility Scooters.

  morddwyd 21:09 22 Jun 14
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Now I can no longer lift my wife in and out of the car I'm going to have to get a wheelchair assessable car.

Obviously the fore and aft chair restraints have to have type approval, as does her own restraint, but when I mentioned to the salesman that when my wife was not in the car I would be carrying my own scooter simply as cargo, he said I must have type approved restraints for that, and type approved anchors on the scooter too.

Now surely not? I should no more need type approved restraints on a empty scooter than I do for an empty deck chair.

I am not talking about the sensible securing of loose cargo, I have been carrying a scooter for some ten years and it is always chained down, as is the manual wheelchair, the ramps and the coldbox (it's a big car, in fact for a while I carried two scooters, a Class 2 and a Class 3!) but type approval?

  BRYNIT 21:39 22 Jun 14

I've never heard of restrains for a mobility scooter when being carried in a car other wise you would have to have the same on trams, buses and taxis and this was never mentioned when she got her new car.

  Woolwell 22:11 22 Jun 14

Off the main question but not all scooters can be carried on buses see Rica scooters on buses

  Woolwell 22:31 22 Jun 14

This is an interesting subject and I wonder if there is an EU directive in force.

What are the views of your insurers?

Sorry to learn about the change in your personal circumstances.

  BRYNIT 22:53 22 Jun 14

Must always remember to read what I type. It should have said, when my mother got her new car and not when she got her new car.

  AroundAgain 23:33 22 Jun 14

morddwyd, thanks for mentioning this subject. I do, at times, transport a mobility scooter in my car but it had never occurred to me that maybe it should be fastened down. Umm, obviously, rather remiss of me :(

Woolwell, thanks for your link. I was intending to take my scooter on Park&Ride next Thursday so I'm very pleased, morddwyd, that you started this thread.

Having checked your link, Woolwell, my scooter clearly is within the limits quoted so I will phone Park&Ride tomorrow to find out if I can take my scooter on the bus.

Ha! I could have been well disappointed, and all arrangements gone awry, if I hadn't read this thread and your link.

So, a very big thank you to you all. :)

  Belatucadrus 00:18 23 Jun 14

Surely this so helpful salesperson can be prevailed upon to be more specific as to what legislation he's talking about.

Having researched my late fathers requirement when purchasing his scooter and talked it over with helpful guys at specialist outlets, nobody mentioned legislation on transporting them in a car and google hasn't revealed anything that appears relevant.

It may be specific to heavily modified cars where the manufacturers standard cargo restraints have been moved/deleted, which would explain my ignorance as the scooter always fitted in the unconverted Octavia boot.

  spuds 11:03 23 Jun 14

I suppose like most things in life nowadays, the salesman was only covering his own back regarding health and safety?.

Interesting subject though, because I carry a fold-up type mobility scooter, and never once as the issue of restraining or securing the item as ever been mentioned. One of my neighbour's uses a council approved mobility scooter carrying hackney type taxi on a regular basis, and its usually a case of up a couple of ramps, into the back of the cab, which doesn't seem to take all that long. So it would be interesting to found out what sort of restrainers are used there?.

  wee eddie 11:23 23 Jun 14

Spuds: Unless the Cabbie is very lax, and depending on which design the interior of the Cab is, the Chair will either be, attached to the floor of the Cab with specially designed brackets, or held to the Cab's Divider with locking straps and carabineers and then have the option of a 3 point Seat Belt.

Although both methods take a while, they are obligatory for every Driver of a WAV (Wheelchair Accessible Vehicle). I, for one, do not charge while I am loading and unloading a wheelchair, although it is a time penalty for me and would probably add about £1.00 to the fare.

  wee eddie 11:29 23 Jun 14

I would like to add: If you are driving a hatchback or rear loader, with a Scooter in the back, think about the damage the scooter of chair could do to you, were you to have an incident involving a swift stop.

  morddwyd 20:36 23 Jun 14

Yes, just to clarify, an occupied scooter, or wheelchair for that matter, must be restrained, and so must the occupant, by a norms soec seat belt.

As a matter of common sense an unoccupied one should be restrained too, as mine always is, what I am questioning is it being a legal requirement under the Type Approval Regulations as I don't believe it is.

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