Stolen Cellphones

  Vangeliska 23:20 28 Nov 06
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Having been a victim of this crime, I'm wondering if anyone knows what the Service Providers can do to disable these?

I know that they can disable the SIM Card and that the IMEI number is transmitted and logged with every call you make(as is the number you are calling) but can they disable the phone's IMEI number?

Just curious!

  Forum Editor 23:53 28 Nov 06

called Remote XT that enables a phone company to completely disable a handset when it's stolen, rendering it totally useless - the thief might as well throw it away.

Phones with this technology (and soon all of them will have it) make an ear-splitting whistling sound when a thief tries to use them, and the noise can only be stopped by removing the battery, or allowing it to completely discharge. All data stored on the phone is erased, but it's backed up to a network server, and can be restored in seconds to a new phone held by the account holder.

Remote XT works across all networks, and will -when it's fully implemented - make mobile phone theft a thing of the past; it just won't be worth stealing a phone.

  Vangeliska 23:58 28 Nov 06

Thanks for that, FE, don't believe they did that to mine. but it's good to know!

  WhiteTruckMan 00:01 29 Nov 06

Will it permanently prevent the handset from working ever again? I have in mind the people who export so-called locked out phones to othercountries where it is apparently a simple task to register them and have them running and sold on.

WTM

  Vangeliska 00:07 29 Nov 06

For every technological advancement there is "reverse engineering" but if it makes life difficult, I'm for it!!

  Vangeliska 00:15 29 Nov 06

I believe that I posted on here previously that my SIM card (a PAYG) had over £300 credit and that O2 sent me a replacement a couple of days after I returned to the UK.

The phone was worth less than half that.

  Forum Editor 00:39 29 Nov 06

"Will it permanently prevent the handset from working ever again?"

In theory, yes, although that has yet to be proven in the field. The technology was originally developed by a company called Synchronica, but it's being marketed as Remote XT in the UK. It's not a free service, at the moment it will cost you around £9.99 a month, and so it's mainly aimed at business users.

The industry is trying to get its act together. but there's confusion. Remote XT is good, but at the moment it's expensive. It should be possible for all network providers to kill a handset permanently by using OTA (Over The Air) technology, but again there's a lack of cross-network cooperation. The real answer is to run a cross-network database of all IMEI numbers, so any one phone can be permanently disabled on all netowrks within the country. In a perfect world there would be an international database, so stolen phones couldn't be used anywhere on the planet, but that's just a dream at the moment.

The solution lies in cooperation between the network operators, and an agreement to share the costs of operating such a system. At the moment that's not happening, despite lots of lip-service.

  WhiteTruckMan 01:10 29 Nov 06

that it would be in the manufacturers and networks best interest to help deny network access to stolen handsets. After all, there is (presumably) a significant market for stolen handsets, else this would not be an issue. If people cant buy (working) stolen handsets from criminals then they would have to buy them legitimately from the manufacturers/retailers and/or the networks who must supply a goodly amount of handsets.

WTM

  rezeeg 08:47 29 Nov 06

That's interesting FE cos I had a phone stolen in Senegal (PAYG - Vodaphone, which I had unlocked in order to use a local SIM).

I contacted the network provider (Alize, off-shoot of Orange I think) who asked me for the IMEI number and said that they would prevent the handset from being used again.

From what you've said above I now assume that wasn't strictly true?

  rezeeg 09:09 29 Nov 06

I've answered my own question from click here

"Re-programming is an illegal activity and involves the use of specialist software or 'flasher' units (an electronic device used to remove information held in electronic circuits) to change the International Mobile Equipment Identity (IMEI) number of a mobile phone handset, which is usually 'blocked' on the CEIR database".

  Wak 09:59 29 Nov 06

You can also register your mobile phone and any other valuable equipment here click here and there is a possibility that it could be returned to you if stolen and then recovered by the Police.

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