Sign of the Times.

  dmc727 17:13 23 Feb 06
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effective April 1, 2006, ALL electronics products manufactured prior to 2001 will no longer be allowed to be sold in the second hand market.

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No joke. But not here – not yet!!
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  Forum Editor 17:18 23 Feb 06

on safety grounds. Oxfam haven't allowed their shops to accept donations of anything electronic or electrical for a long time on the grounds of safety, and for all I know, other charity shops may be the same.

I fail to see how the Japanese government (or any other government for that matter) will possibly be able to enforce the new law.

  octal 17:24 23 Feb 06

Ebay will collapse!

  007al 17:53 23 Feb 06

My mother used to work in Oxfam when she first retired.The reason they stopped accepting electrical goods,as far as i remember,was people were using them as a dumping ground for faulty goods they couldnt be bothered to expose of themselves.The store at the rear of the shop was full of fridges and washing machines ready for the skip.Technicians were paid to test them,and a large percentage were not worth repairing.So it cost Oxfam money on testing and disposal with a delivery truck making regular trips to the refuse site.

  SG Atlantis® 18:06 23 Feb 06

would you really want someone's electronic tat that's five years + old?

  Joe R 18:26 23 Feb 06

dmc727,

I can concur with the FE's statements on this one. I work in a Packaging company and any electrical equipment, i.e. CD Players, Mp3 players, radios, etc, must be checked by a qualified electrical technician before being allowed to be used in the workplace.

Seemingly this is required to meet iso standards, and has been the norm' in hospitals etc, for a while now.

  Totally-braindead 18:42 23 Feb 06

The Red Cross have just opened a new shop here a few weeks ago specialising in second hand electrical items only. They test all items before reselling them.
I used to work in the British Heart Foundation and they have to bin all electrical goods as they have no way of testing them. The problem in their case is they don't get enough electrical goods to justify paying a technician to test them. Bit of a waste but I do appeciate that if they sold a faulty electrical item to someone and something happened they could or probably would be legally liable.

  dmc727 18:52 23 Feb 06

A side of me agrees with the FE and what Joe is saying but this dictate is saying that anything over five’s years old is rubbish.

Should we not expect higher standards from the goods we buy? Maybe, because I’m from the older school, I have too higher expectations.

But laws don’t just happen – some pressure group is behind this and knowing who would tell a tale. Are the Japanese manufactures trying to speed up planned obsolescence.

The way we are going we’ll be throwing things away after 12 months next. How big a deal is it to check if an article is OK for resale as opposed to devouring more resources to replace what could be serviceable goods for many more years. TB – your experience would be better helped if recycling was pushed more by the authorities.

One minute people are up in arms about global warming yet the other hand want to devour more resources at a greater rate.

You can’t have your cake and eat it.

  oresome 18:55 23 Feb 06

Unless they keep moving the date forward, it will surely become pointless in time.

Joe R,

It's always been good practise and recommended by the HSE to track and PAT test appliances brought into the workplace by staff as well as the company's own appliances.

I suspect most don't though. Easier to ban staff from bringing any electrical appliance onto site, but in practise to turn a blind eye.

  wiz-king 05:35 24 Feb 06

it's a good idea but what about 'designer' antiques like java lamps and early gramophones It could wipe out an entire antique market at a stroke, no Tiffany lamps and what will happen to all the Ming vases that have been turned into lamps by avid diy freaks.

  Diodorus Siculus 09:27 24 Feb 06

I get a similar problem when I want to do some study in various university libraries around the country - if I want to plug in my laptop, it has to be certified by a qualified electrician recommended by the university authorities. More than once I've spent half a day waiting for the relevant person to come along and say that my machine was electrically ok. A battery will only last so long...

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