Linux and all that.

  jack 09:25 13 Nov 07
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Having won back a machine that I built for a friend who sadly recently passed on[Her family asked if I could make use of it] Ok I thought here is a no risk opportunty to discover what Linux is all about.
Following several recent thread I downloaded 'Puppy'
Make the disk- reset the machine to boot from CD
where upon it ignored that and booted back to Windoze. A learning curve has started.
Then I caught Skidzy's piececlick here
and Wondered is there enough interest for another forum here?

  Pine Man 09:31 13 Nov 07

You might be right.

I tried Linux and got on quite well until I tried configuring it for wifi and then I really had probs. I did find a Linux forum but they all seemed to speak a different language to me!

  interzone55 10:07 13 Nov 07

The problem with a lot of Linux users is they pride themselves on their knowledge and they abhor people who are not at their level.

I used to find the same sort of attitude in specialist music shops - if you have to ask about a record you are not the sort of customer they wanted. Laughable really, if you want to spread the word about a product, surely you should make it easy for people to use it.

This is why Ubuntu is catching on really well, it's easy to get to grips with, you can use it as a live CD until you get the hang of it, then let it install itself - creating it's own partition in the process.

  octal 10:10 13 Nov 07

You may well be right. Although you have to bear in mind there are so many different Linux systems around and nearly all of them have their own specific forums because each Linux build is slightly different to the next one, so any questions would probably have to be general Linux questions rather than distro specific.

There does seem to be a lot of interest in Linux for some reason, I was reading a link on another forum about Walmart in the states selling computers for $200 and they've sold out click here

At the end of the day all the average user wants is to use a system that is cheap and works and Linux is starting to do that.

  octal 10:14 13 Nov 07

"The problem with a lot of Linux users is they pride themselves on their knowledge and they abhor people who are not at their level."

Sorry, just not true, look on the Linux forums and you won't see a more patient bunch with newcomers.

  Pine Man 10:48 13 Nov 07

'Sorry, just not true, look on the Linux forums and you won't see a more patient bunch with newcomers.'

Certainly not my experience.

  DieSse 11:33 13 Nov 07

Thats why I kkep pressing th FE (and this time also the magazine editor) for a Linux Forum. Here we tend to have reasonably polite and tolerant help.

See what FE said here click here

To me a Linux forum in a PC magazine makes a lot more sense than a mobile forum (the argument that we all use mobiles doesn't sit well with me - we all use cars too - but this isn't a car magazine anymore than a phone magazine).

However we're in the hands of the powers that be - it's their magazine and the idea of a Linux forum has been consistently turned down. Personally I think the time has now come.

  octal 11:37 13 Nov 07

Then we'll agree to disagree.

  Si_L 12:22 13 Nov 07

Does anyone know rougly the percentage of users that use Linux?

I should imagine its going up now, what with Dell selling Linux PC's.

  interzone55 12:28 13 Nov 07

I'm going to have to disagree with you as well.

Whilst I haven't spoken to every Linux user, the majority of the ones I have seem to revel in the complexities of the OS, and relish using the command line to perform tasks.

Sorry, but now computers have more power than most people need there is no need to resort to using the command line when the GUI will handle most tasks with ease.

  DieSse 13:10 13 Nov 07

"Sorry, but now computers have more power than most people need there is no need to resort to using the command line when the GUI will handle most tasks with ease."

Whilst that's true for most users - and certainly most home users - it certainly isn't true for some classes of users who find the command line more flexible and powerful (and BTW - I'm a GUI type user).

You also have to remember that a large percentage of Linux users up to now tend to be in commercial environments - where they are accustomed to working with a command line, and appreciate it's benefits for them. This will change, as more users have Linux in a more everyday desktop environment.

Personally (although I date from DOS and pre-DOS days, and am quite happy with using a command line) I'm much more interested in using Linux on a desktop, and using just the GUI. Most of the time that's perfectly possible - just as with Windows it's occasionally necessary to resort to the command line.

I find pretty much the only people that Linux forum users seem to get upset with is the "it don't work like Windows, so it's rubbish" crowd - who are thankfully a minority.

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